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Illinois Window Tinting Law

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HB3325 IS NOW LAW! Public Act 096-0815, effective 10/30/2009

35% Front/35% Rear or 50% Front/30% Rear

UNDER 30% ON ANY REAR WINDOW MAKES IT ILLEGAL TO TINT IN FRONT (unless vehicle is classified "MPV" and has privacy glass - 50% Front)

UPDATE: 5-5-10. NBC5 aired a report on the "Tinted Windows" issue in Chicago on 5-5-10.

UPDATE: 11-24-9. We continue to hear of stories that folks are still getting tint tickets (including a few close friends). The word from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office is that as long as you have legal tint under the current law contained in HB 3325, you should contest the ticket.

Make sure you have a copy of the law: Public Act 096-0815, which can be found at ILGA.

The Illinois Capitol Office has had several calls from people in Cook County who are getting tickets for tints. People are still having issues with the fact that officers and judges do not know or do not want to acknowledge that P.A. 096-0815 is law effective 10/30/09. All you can do is maintaining your innocence by pleading "Not guilty" pursuant to IL Public Act 096-0815 (as long as your vehicle is equipped legally under P.A. 096-0815).

UPDATE: 10-30-9. We just got an update from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. HB 3325 successfully passed the amendatory veto in the House and Senate. This bill becomes law effective immediately.

NOW LEGAL tint combinations.
1. Up to 35% in the Rear/up to 35% front
2. 35-30% in the rear/up to 50% front
3. IF YOU HAVE BELOW 30% TINT IN THE REAR, YOU CAN NOT HAVE FRONT TINT If you have an MPV, which include but are not limited to, SUVs, Station Wagons, minivans, Toasters, etc., and said MPV has factory installed privacy glass (smoked), you are allowed to have up to 50% tint in front.

Thank you.
Special thanks to Representative Bassi, Representative Murphy, and Dave Krause (he has the Facebook page on HB 3325), and was the person who approached Representative Suzanne Bassi with the idea/language of the bill.


UPDATE: 9-28-9. We just got an update from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. A Veto Session begins Oct 14th, 15th, and 16th, as well as the 28th, 29th 30th. The bill will be voted on again at that time.

UPDATE: 8-26-9. We just got an update from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office on the Amendatory Veto message from the Governor, and it reads...

Recommends: deleting language providing that "on multipurpose passenger vehicles... a nonreflective tinted film originally applied by the manufacturer, that allows at least 50% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by any law enforcement official metering the light transmittance, may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver"; and inserting language providing that "on multipurpose passenger vehicles... with a nonreflective tint originally applied by the manufacturer on the windows to the rear of the driver’s seat, the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver may be treated with a nonreflective tint that allows at least 50% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by a law enforcement official metering the light transmittance".

UPDATE: 8-26-9. We spoke with the Governor's Office this morning and we are told that The Governor signed the bill which included a mandatory veto (which means that there were a few technical changes) it then goes for Senate approval, they have a veto session scheduled for October.

UPDATE: 8-25-9. We spoke with the Governor's Office and a decision will be made today by 5pm. We will post new info as soon as it is available. Rumor has it that the Illinois State Police has filed an objection to a paragraph in the bill, threatening to make this whole process start from the beginning, but we were told that there is no "official" record of this.

UPDATE: 7-28-9. Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office answers a very good question from one of our readers.

Question: I emailed my alderman's office, and they said that even if Illinois passes a law allowing tint, the Chicago Municipal Code will supercede that law. So tint will still be illegal with a $250 ticket in Chicago until the Municipal Code is changed (at least according to my alderman's office)."

Answer: NO that is not true. The Illinois Vehicle Code (Chapter 11 specifically) allows Chicago to adopt ordinances in regards to the movement of vehicles and rules of the road. However, tinting is not a moving ordinance but an equipment ordinance (Chapter 12 of the Illinois Vehicle Code) thus Chicago is not exempt from the law. This information came from the Illinois State Police.

UPDATE: 7-16-9. Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office answers a very good question from one of our readers.

Question.
"How can Suzanne Bassi sponser two different bills, with two completely different results. The bill we want is HB3325, but she also sponsored HB4327 which does the exact OPPOSITE of what 3325 does. How can she do this?"

Answer.
Waiting on our legal department for the correct terminology of the bills. So this might be pre-mature, and unfortunately lengthy. Here is my understanding of the bill(s) This gets tricky because when you look up this bill, the original language is not necessarily the language that will become law, because there have been amendments (new language) put forth which deletes the original language. (Does that make sense?) So reading the bills and the admendments that have been passed, these two bills do two separate things.

HB 4327 does not impact HB 3325; however, it expands the legal responsibility to include the professionals who illegally alter or tint windows. Under HB 4327, they can be charged with the same offense as those who drive illegally altered or tinted windows.

HB 3325 as amended deals specifically with the tinting levels on a vehicle. It states that a person may drive a motor vehicle with a nonreflective material tinted film that does not allow less than 50% light transmittance (or less than 35% light transmittance if the windows to the rear of the driver already have certain window treatment applied) upon the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver. Deletes a front windshield exemption for persons afflicted with or suffering from a medical illness, ailment, or disease. Deletes an exemption to certain window obstruction provisions for motor vehicles manufactured prior to January 1, 1982. Provides that is a petty offense and a Class C misdemeanor for a second offense for an installer to install window treatment on motor vehicles that do not have specified license plates or stickers.

As you see....these bill are different and do not effect one another.

UPDATE: 7-12-9. Another update from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. She tells us that The Governor has the bill and they are awaiting his signature or veto. He has until August 25th to take action on the bill.

UPDATE: 5-31-9. Another update from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. She tells us that the billed passed again. Speaker Madigan now has 30 days to send it to the Governor, and then the Governor has 60 days to sign or veto the bill.

UPDATE: 5-22-9. Another update from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. She tells us that the 96th General Assembly has passed Bill HB3325 and helps us understand the next steps and timeline.

Since the senate changed some language of the initial bill, it must first go back to the House for approval.

Here is the language that changed (it is called an amendment):

"Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois Vehicle Code to provide that a person may drive a motor vehicle with a nonreflective material tinted film that does not allow less than 50% light transmittance (or less than 35% light transmittance if the windows to the rear of the driver already have certain window treatment applied) upon the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver. Deletes a front windshield exemption for persons afflicted with or suffering from a medical illness, ailment, or disease. Deletes an exemption to certain window obstruction provisions for motor vehicles manufactured prior to January 1, 1982. Provides that is a petty offense for a first offense and a Class C misdemeanor for a second offense for an installer to install window treatment on motor vehicles that do not have specified license plates or stickers. Effective immediately."

A concurrence is a simple vote, usually without debate. I do not foresee any problems with the passage of the amendment (new language of the bill).

Even to make this whole process more complicated... once a bill is passed by both houses, the Speaker of the House (Michael Madigan) has 30 days to send it to the Governor.

Once it hits the Governors Desk, he has 60 days to sign or veto (which veto means he opposes the bill-and if a bill is veto'd the House and Senate have to vote on the bill again-it has to pass this time with a super-majority) the bill.

So even if there aren't any roadblocks getting the amendment passed, there is still a possibility that we are almost 90 days before the bill becomes law.

Representative Suzanne Bassi is very pleased that this bill has passed thus far, because previous attempts failed. She is still working the bill and urging for its expedient passage and signature by the Governor.

UPDATE: 5-21-9. We just spoke with Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. She tells us that the 96th General Assembly has passed Bill HB3325. It replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois Vehicle Code to provide that a person may drive a motor vehicle with a nonreflective material tinted film that does not allow less than 50% light transmittance upon the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver. FINALLY!!!! It now goes to the Governor for his signature or veto. (print a copy and keep it in your car).

UPDATE: 5-11-9. We just spoke with Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. This is what she said...
The bill is still on second reading in the Senate, which means it still has to be read a 2nd time (for the record), then on the 3rd reading it will be voted on. They have until May 31st to pass the bill. No worries, plenty of time for this bill to be heard and passed. The legislature in “in Session” lots of days in May, which again, I will stress that there is plenty of time for this bill to pass.

UPDATE: 4-30-9. We just spoke with Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. She tells us that the bill passed in the House 117 to 0 and then went to the Senate, were it passed again 6 to 0. It now goes back to the Senate for a "second reading" and is expected to pass. We can all thank Representative Suzanne "Suzie" Bassi, who introduced this bill.

UPDATE: 4-29-9. "Looks like the senate hearing went well yesterday. HB3325 picked up an alternate co sponsor, Sen. John M. Sullivan. I'm not sure where this bill is headed to next, but it looks like it's gaining momentum!

UPDATE: 4-23-9. Looks like the bill was assigned to a Transportation team, who will regroup on the 28th.

UPDATE: 4-11-9. House Bill 3325 was passed last week that would allow tint on the front windows. Either 50/30 or 35% all around or the current none/any. The senate reconvenes on April 21st. Call your representatives to make sure this bill is passed.


On Monday, January 15th, 2007, I sent an email to the Illinois Secretary Of State requesting information on the window tinting law.


window tint detail

Window tint excert form the "Rules of the Road, Chapter 11: Equipment for Safe Driving" portion of Cyber Drive Illinois. (article).

On Tuesday, January 16th, 2007 I got the following...

Here is the statute on tinted windows (625 ILCS 5/12-503). Under no circumstances does the law currently allow you to tint the front and front seat side windows.

Sec. 12-503. Windshields must be unobstructed and equipped with wipers.

(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle with any sign, poster, window application, reflective material, nonreflective material or tinted film upon the front windshield, sidewings or side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver. A nonreflective tinted film may be used along the uppermost portion of the windshield if such material does not extend more than 6 inches down from the top of the windshield. Nothing in this Section shall create a cause of action on behalf of a buyer against a dealer or manufacturer who sells a motor vehicle with a window which is in violation of this Section.

(b) Nothing contained in this Section shall prohibit the use of nonreflective, smoked or tinted glass, nonreflective film, perforated window screen or other decorative window application on windows to the rear of the driver's seat, except that any motor vehicle with a window to the rear of the driver's seat treated in this manner shall be equipped with a side mirror on each side of the motor vehicle which are in conformance with Section 12-502.

(c) No person shall drive a motor vehicle with any objects placed or suspended between the driver and the front windshield, rear window, side wings or side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver which materially obstructs the driver's view.

(d) Every motor vehicle, except motorcycles, shall be equipped with a device, controlled by the driver, for cleaning rain, snow, moisture or other obstructions from the windshield; and no person shall drive a motor vehicle with snow, ice, moisture or other material on any of the windows or mirrors, which materially obstructs the driver's clear view of the highway.

(e) No person shall drive a motor vehicle when the windshield, side or rear windows are in such defective condition or repair as to materially impair the driver's view to the front, side or rear. A vehicle equipped with a side mirror on each side of the vehicle which are in conformance with Section 12?502 will be deemed to be in compliance in the event the rear window of the vehicle is materially obscured.

(f) Paragraphs (a) and (b) of this Section shall not apply to:

(1) motor vehicles manufactured prior to January 1, 1982; or
(2) to those motor vehicles properly registered in another jurisdiction.

(g) Paragraph (a) of this Section shall not apply to any motor vehicle with a window treatment, including but not limited to a window application, reflective material, nonreflective material, or tinted film, applied or affixed to the motor vehicle for the purposes set forth in item (1) or (2) before the effective date of this amendatory Act of 1997 and:

(1) that is owned and operated by a person afflicted with or suffering from a medical illness, ailment, or disease which would require that person to be shielded from the direct rays of the sun; or

(2) that is used in transporting a person when the person resides at the same address as the registered owner of the vehicle and the person is afflicted with or suffering from a medical illness, ailment or disease which would require the person to be shielded from the direct rays of the sun;

It must be certified by a physician licensed to practice medicine in Illinois that such person owning and operating or being transported in a motor vehicle is afflicted with or suffers from such illness, ailment, or disease and such certification must be carried in the motor vehicle at all times. The certification shall be legible and shall contain the date of issuance, the name, address and signature of the attending physician, and the name, address, and medical condition of the person requiring exemption. The information on the certificate for a window treatment applied or affixed before the effective date of this amendatory Act of 1997 must remain current and shall be renewed annually by the attending physician, but in no event shall a certificate issued for purposes of this subsection be valid on or after January 1, 2008. The person shall also submit a copy of the certification to the Secretary of State. The Secretary of State may forward notice of certification to law enforcement agencies.

This subsection shall not be construed to authorize window treatments applied or affixed on or after the effective date of this amendatory Act of 1997.

The exemption provided by this subsection (g) shall not apply to any motor vehicle on and after January 1, 2008.

(h) Paragraph (a) of this Section shall not apply to motor vehicle stickers or other certificates issued by State or local authorities which are required to be displayed upon motor vehicle windows to evidence compliance with requirements concerning motor vehicles.

(i) Those motor vehicles exempted under paragraph (f)(1) of this Section shall not cause their windows to be treated as described in paragraph (a) after January 1, 1993.

(j) A person found guilty of violating paragraphs (a), (b), or (i) of this Section shall be guilty of a petty offense and fined no less than $50 nor more than $500. A second or subsequent violation of paragraphs (a), (b), or (i) of this Section shall be treated as a Class C misdemeanor and the violator fined no less than $100 nor more than $500. Any person convicted under paragraphs (a), (b), or (i) of this Section shall be ordered to alter any nonconforming windows into compliance with this Section.

(source: P.A. 90-389, eff. 1-1-98.)


UPDATE:
Illinois HB 4329: Sponsor: Representative Thomas Holbrook (D): Summary: HB 4329 provides that the exemption from the prohibition against window treatment, allowed to persons with a medical condition that requires the person to be shielded from the direct rays of the sun, applies to window treatments applied or affixed before January 1, 2008 (rather than before January 1, 1998). It provides that the medical certification for a window treatment applied or affixed before January 1, 2008 (rather than before January 1, 1998) must be kept current and must be renewed annually by the certifying physician. It provides that the exemption remains in effect until January 1, 2014 (rather than until January 1, 2008). Referred to Rules Committee.


Call your representative and senator. Senator Link, 847.735.8181

To find your representative, go to www.elections.state.il.us and type your adress.

Tell them you are in favor of House Bill #4329, which allows for a medical exemption and you are ALSO in favor of a law that would allow 35% window tint on driver and passenger doors.

Mention that Missouri allows 35%, Wisconsin allows 50% and Indiana allows 30%. Also, there are only five other states that do not allow window tint on the driver and passenger doors.

The benefits of window tinting are:
1) Block 99.9% of harmful UV rays.
2) Reduces glare from sun and headlights for greater driving safety.
3) Helps protect from shattered glass fragments in case of accident or break-in.

These are just a few, but feel free to give your own reasons.

LINKS
Illinois House Bill #4329   Window tint medical exemption.
State Window Tinting Laws   States I through M.
Window Tint Laws   
Illinois Window Tint Law   
Facebook   Group
Tough Times for Tint   NBC report
 
 
COMMENTS
Raul V2324 days ago

There should be a way for people to be excempt from the tinting law other than for medical reasons. We should just have to register the vehicle with tinted windows. It should be a privelage to have tints and should be taken away if misused. Hope something can be done to allow tinted windows.

CT2324 days ago

That sounds like a great idea. Contact the senator above and pass it on. The more people that complain, the greater the possibility for change (I hope). I got nailed last summer.

travis2303 days ago

so if our vehicle is 1982 or down we can tint all the windows?

Sylvia2302 days ago

I just got my car out and i need to tint my windowds so stop hating.

Bebe2298 days ago

Over the past month I've gotten four tickets for my windows being tinted. I have factory tint on my windows and a person can see through the front side windows. I think the should have exclusions and the law now is bullshit.

Jay Thomas2296 days ago

Register your car in a state that allows tint. Florida is one of those states.

jevin2291 days ago

can you get pulled over for tinted windows or is it a secondary law where if you are already pulled over then they can ticket you for the tints?

CT2291 days ago

You can not only get pulled over, put taken to Jail. It is now a misdemeanor. Ridiculous!

WTF2282 days ago

sylvia you tart what are you talking about who's hating?

John Ristuccia2254 days ago

I have a pattented product called Spot O' Shade, that keeps the sun from your eyes on the drivers side window. It's 6 3/4" in diameter, does not block your view and it's easily movable when sun shifts.
John

Jac2138 days ago

My son got a $75 ticket in Fox River Grove for having tinted side windows which led me to this site. Read the part about the 6" limit on front windows and went out to the garage to measure the tint on my wife's Honda Accord -- 7" tint from the factory. If FRG gives tickets to kids for having tinted windows, shouldn't they be ticketing every Accord that drives through?

nicole2067 days ago

i bought a car with tinted windows. why should i go through the hassle of removing it? it blocks out the sun and it keeps creepy dudes from staring at me constantly

CT2067 days ago

We can't agree more, it's a bullshit law that takes up much needed resources from bigger problems. We all need to write the Senator (info above) and try to change this. It is unreal that you can be put in jail over this.

Dominic2059 days ago

There are chances that you may be made to remove the tinted film from your car window in the case where your car window tinting is against state regulations. When you get your car windows tinted it is necessary that you find a professional and qualified person to do the job.

JackZ2050 days ago

i've been driving my car with tints all around the car except the windshield for over 2 years with no problems. Now i get a ticket for front tints from a cop who seemed to have a hardon to give out a ticket to someone. It's the law in Illinois No front tints on driver and passenger windows. It seems cops write tickets for tints when they feel like it. If it's the law then enforce the friggin rule for everyone, not just as an excuse to write someone a ticket.

Jenny2041 days ago

This is crap. I've driven my car for 2 years. Been pulled over twice and nothing said about the windows. Now I get a ticket. Why? Illinois laws suck! I bought my car this way and now I have to put out the time and money to remove it. I think car dealers shouldn't be able to sell a car with tinted windows. Where is their responsibility in this?

Robert2037 days ago

As long as a Officer can see inside the car the tinted window shouldnt be a problem ! But we have so many NO Good Police Officer's !!!!!! until their afraid their going to be shot or something ! Officer's, Quit being Ass hole's, and you wont have to worry about this problem . You ass'es really make it Badd for the Good Officer's in the United State of Americia !

karen2027 days ago

Isn't it interesting that as the cities', counties' & state's coffers get smaller, the percentage of crime somehow gets larger? Indeed, we are so in peril that the cops are all over window tinters, sticker violators, speeders, etc. I feel so unsafe!!!
Have much the same story as Jenny above. Pulled over once before, years ago, same vehicle, not a word said about the tint. Car came from a state that allowed tinting, and naturally brought the car with us to Illinois. Meanwhile, developed a medical condition that makes avoidance of sun a priority. Only in freakin' IL is everything such a hassle. Cannot wait to leave!

Shadow-Reaper2023 days ago

I drive an 06 Mustang GT that came with the factory tints on the window which is also registered in AZ. I've driven the car here for over a year and been nailed so many times and passed so many cops and never had a word said till just a normal day driving home from work a Des Plaines cruiser claimed i had my brights on, flashed me i kept going cause they werent on and sure enough he flipped a uie and i got into a 20 minute argument about how my car is reg out of state and illinois laws state exemption only for medical and out of state registered automobiles. I got no where with him and just said okay ill take them off when i get paid next (yeah right. Take me to court. I'll win). Not just gang bangers put tints on there cars. We law abiding citizens put them on to keep the gang bangers from stealing our stuff.

CT2023 days ago

I've commented on this many times here, but I feel I need to do it again. We can only change this law if we all complain. I too have been stopped and think this is a ridiculous law that punishes the honest and law abiding public and is now being used to generate new money for the city.

Call your representative. Senator Link's number is 847.735.8181

Andrew2022 days ago

A house bill was passed last week "HB3325" that would allow tint on the front windows. Either 50/30 or 35% all around or the current none/any. The senate reconvenes on April 21st. Call your representatives to make sure this bill is passed.

Andrew2022 days ago

Here's the link to House Bill 3325.

CT2021 days ago

Wow Andrew, if this is true and passes, it is GREAT news. Thanks for the tip

Willyum2018 days ago

Lets compare, arent sunglasses the same as obstruction of a drivers view. What is it when your windows are down while operating and the ONLY tint the officer see is your Black ass. Hmmm

sean2018 days ago

i've been pull over a few times for my windows being tinted by both state and local cops, most of the time it's just been warnings. but they really haven't done much until recently, got pulled over twice inside of a month by the same city. i think that they should just let drivers themselves decide how dark they want go.

Paul2016 days ago

Just got pulled over this morning (April 14) by an Illinois State trooper for window tint, which was factory applied. I was not on the highway, I was in a town that has it's own police department where I work and they never pulled me over for the windows. The town is crawling with cops and my car gets seen by them at least twice a day. Maybe the police realize that this law may soon change and this may be their last chance to hand out tickets on this issue. He only gave me a warning, but next time he may not. I take a medication that requires me to avoid direct sunlight, so perhaps I may get a medical exemption. As others have stated, only five states have this law and wouldn't you know that Illinois is one of them. This state becomes a bigger embarrasment every day.drachman teresa"s

tyler2016 days ago

OMG this law is stupid, i own a 1992 plymouth acclaim and we bought it new in 92, ok i tinted the windows 3 years ago and to this day i havent got pulled over, how weird??? i need your guy's help on this, should i just keep the tint on or take it off before i get pulled over? i heard that you can go to jail for havent tinted windows, thats wierd, friklife@gmail.com

jt2012 days ago

i had my window tint on for the past 3.5 years. i drive through orland park 6 days a week, and thats the only town who is really gay about it. they have nothing else better to do.

e2010 days ago

this chick at work got a ticket for this. she is very sad.

Paris2009 days ago

I have a 1998 Malibu and drive around the city everday. I agree with what a person said earlier. It seems that cops only pull you over for tint only when they have nothing else better to do. I got a ticket about three days ago. The cop cut across about 3 lanes of traffic just to give me a ticket. He have me the ticket and kept my license. I have to prove in traffic court that the front tint has been taken off. That shouldnt be hard to do ha ha. I think it's b.s. I just went to a resturant and passed about 4 different cops some even in the parking lot and none of them said a word to me or this other guy with tint. We all can fight to get this reversed so that we could have the freedom to have tint and be protected in plenty of ways.

A person posted this number Call your representative. Senator Link's number is 847.735.8181

I will be calling tomorrow.

CT2008 days ago

Contact Representative Suzanne "Suzie" Bassi. Telephone: (847) 776-1880 or by email

Brian2008 days ago

Andrew, You said that the Senate was to reconvene 4/21/09? Any updates on HB3325?

Mike2008 days ago

Looks like the bill was assigned to a Transportation team, who will regroup on the 28th.

CT2008 days ago

Thanks (from all of us) for the update Mike.

Brian2008 days ago

Thanks Mike!

Just an FYI to anyone parking near any of the beaches (North Ave, Foster, Montrose, etc) along the lake in Chicago, the cops are always out in full force handing out illegal parking, no city sticker and of course their favorite, front window tint tickets. Besides praying day/night for HB3325 to pass, you can do what I do and store your valuables inside your glove compartment and/or trunk (assuming they are lockable) and then roll your windows down all the way when parked. Obviously, if you happen to have a $400 stereo head unit and 4 TV screens in your car, this doesn't apply to you. If you are parking on the south or west side, this also doesn't apply to you.

CT2008 days ago

I have resorted to driving around with a printout of this bill in my trunk just in case i get stopped so I can appeal to the officer's "reasonable" side. Hope it works, or that I don't need it.

CT2008 days ago

Everyone needs to CALL the Representative.

Anonymous2006 days ago

I think if you buy a car in the state of Illinois with the front windows already tinted then you should be exempt from the law, or the state of Illinois should not be aloud to sell cars with window tint on the front windows!!!

Joe2003 days ago

My favorite is the 8pm Driveby window tint ticket.

Got another one tonight, 20 minutes ago.

Nevermind that it's dark, there's no streetlight, and he didn't even roll the window of his own car down to see(it's raining) just flashed the light at the window and backed up to get the plate #.

Brian2002 days ago

Looks like the senate hearing went well yesterday. HB3325 picked up an alternate co sponsor, Sen. John M. Sullivan. I'm not sure where this bill is headed to next, but it looks like it's gaining momentum!

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3325&GAID=10&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=46080&SessionID=76&GA=96

CT2002 days ago

Thanks very much for the update Brian.

Brian2001 days ago

*Update*
4/29/2009 Senate Placed on Calendar Order of 2nd Reading April 30, 2009

Tosh1999 days ago

What does this mean?

Leshun1999 days ago

I'm a government offical and it seems to me like the police are trying to do what they think is right, By giving away tickets for tinted windows and talking to people like they nothing to them. I have be all over the world and come home to hear that they gave my wife a ticket for tinted windows twice and the windows are very visible to see through. I have a very low tolerance and I will make sure that they end up doing desk work for a very long time

Craig1997 days ago

Just received a ticket in Chicago for window tints. It was just sitting on my car parked on the street. Lived here now for 1.5 yrs, car parked normal spot, have even received a couple of other parking violations without any word about tints. I have factory tint with the front being much lighter than the back. Didn't know anything about the tint laws in Illinois since I just assumed a factory car would be okay. Now I am supposed to pay $250? And supposedly the cop saw my light tint on my black car at 8pm?

Christopher1997 days ago

Got dinged for 250 last week. found this site- so it looks like this law may change very soon? can anyone estimate the time before it becomes "legal" to have tints on driver/passenger windows?

thanks.

christopher1996 days ago

who can i contact about information regarding the status? who is making updates to this blog/thread? thanks!

mcnichoc at gmail dot com

CT1996 days ago

Use the contact email on home page.

Logik1996 days ago

Well correct me i am wrong but... i just read the amendment to house bill HB3325, and it seems as though we can now have tints on the front passenger windows. Check it out for yourself.

CT1996 days ago

I encourage anyone who has front window tints to do as I have done and carry a printout of this bill in your trunk in case you have to pull it out. Perhaps appeal to the officers better (and nicer) attributes and maybe you'll get off until this thing passes in a few weeks. We feel it will after speaking with Bassi's office.

Tosh1994 days ago

Any updates on the status of HB3325?

jeffry1992 days ago

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory.asp?GA=96&DocNum=3325&DocTypeID=HB&GAId=10&LegID=46080&SessionID=76

I think it passed?? can someone verify this, i dont understand this law lingo sh*t

jeffry1992 days ago

edit* it passed the house now needs to pass the SENATE

Mike1989 days ago

I am on the fence with either waiting on getting tints AFTER the bill has passed, or just doing it now aniticipating it passing. Any idea on how long the Senate process may take? I'd hate to get them installed and then get a ticket for over 100% of the cost!

rick1989 days ago

I have a smartcar. I Is a two door with no back seat. We only have 2
front windows. I should be able to tint my windows because of glare from the sun.

Search Used Autos1989 days ago

I have heard stories from our users that tint laws may even be enforced differently by each regional Police Department in the same state. In all cases, refer to you local authority for enforcement policies, current window tint laws, rules or regulations as the final authority to car window tint laws in your area.

Most times these situations are not due to negligence by the police, but lack of clarity in terms of how the state window tint laws were written. You can think of the collection of laws for each state as a patchwork quilt, as time goes on, more patches need to be added and removed to keep the laws applicable towards the future.

This process sometimes causes inconsistent window tint laws (patches) to border each other and make the entire section subject to interpretation. Tint Center.com tries to take the consensus opinion from many sources and publish that in our state tint laws section. For example, here is site about the problems interpreting Pennsylvania Window Tint Laws.

Thanks for lot of information about Illinois Window Tinting Law

Himanshu

Prevent1988 days ago

Has anyone read the bill? It seems a little odd...

***

(a-5) A nonreflective tinted film that does not allow less
5 than 50% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by
6 any law enforcement official metering the light transmittance,
7 may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each
8 side of the driver. This subsection does not apply to the front
9 windshield. This subsection does not apply to any motor
10 vehicle, except as provided for in subsection (a-9) of this
11 Section, that has one or more windows to the rear of the
12 driver's seat treated in a manner described by subsection (b)
13 of this Section that allows less than 30% light transmittance.
14 (a-7) A nonreflective tinted film that does not allow less
15 than 35% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by
16 any law enforcement official metering the light transmittance,
17 may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each
18 side of the driver. This subsection does not apply to the front
19 windshield. This subsection does not apply to any motor vehicle
20 that has one or more windows to the rear of the driver's seat
21 treated in a manner described by subsection (b) of this Section
22 that allows less than 35% light transmittance.
23 (a-9) A nonreflective tinted film that does not allow less
24 than 50% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by
25 any law enforcement official metering the light transmittance,
26 may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each

*****

So the type of tint on you're front windows depends on what is on your back windows? Does anyone know if the law for tint on the rear windows will be affected? Requiring us to choose lighter tints?

Tinted Owner1988 days ago

I just got a $250 ticket today for my windows, which are factory installed so cannot remove easily and the car was purchased in Illinois. Interestingly, the City of Chicago just increased the tinted window fine from $25 to $250!!!!!!! This happened just in January, I guarantee they saw this law was going to eventually pass and decided to make as much money as possible. BTW, not ONE alderman voted against this 10 fold increase, when have you EVER seen a fine for no apparent reason increase, except to continue to gouge us already struggling citizens of Chicago and the state of Illinois....

CT1988 days ago

This is just so out of hand. I feel for you. I can not believe that the city is so blind to the anger this is creating. I am very hopeful that it will change very soon.

Kneel Sea1987 days ago

Did it pass?

Lukasz Z1987 days ago

Lucky me, just got a ticket yesterday. The officer that pulled me over just asked for my license and insurance and told me I was getting a ticket. Well he came back in 3 minutes without my license and with a yellow slip that I must appear in court on July 14th. Then today I find out this is most likely going to cost me $250??? This is nuts, I have these tints for 5 years now at 35% and you can clearly see through them. Hopefully this law will pass before my court date so I don't have to pay this.

It seems cops have an itchy finger for tickets now a days. I am soo angry at this city. What ever happened to "You've been warned"??? I didn't know about this going up to $250. How the hell do they find it ok to give out these fines without making people aware of the laws first? I would not mind receiving this ticket if I had a warning before hand. The officer failed to inform me if I just need to remove the front tint and I won't have to pay the fine or anything. Am I supposed to show up to court with my eyes shut and hope for the best?

First the property taxes, then the sales tax, and now the never ending tickets. I might as well wear a skirt to my hearing, bend over and say "ok Mayor Daley go ahead, we all know why I'm here." Man this town is starting to be more crooked day by day. The new Mafia is not extorting money from shops on the local avenue, they're in office "legally" taking whatever money we have left in our pockets. If I was expected to be a gang member or involved in illegal activity, why was my car not checked nor was I? If the officers fear for their lives, make people roll their windows down and turn on their lights inside the vehicle before approaching the car, a win win situation. Wish me luck.... And good luck to the bill being passed...

Brian1985 days ago

One word: recession. it hurts everyone. Even cops, crooked and straight. I started driving with my windows down (red coupe with 35% all around) because I know those cops on Ashland are just waiting for me. Like its been said before, they are trying to milk it @ $250 a pop as much as they can until this bill passes.

Hopefully after the bill passes, cops will only stop/ticket those with 0-5% tint where its obvious there's no light going through. Those of us with light 35-50% tint should be left alone. but who knows...

Mike1985 days ago

It looks like it's getting closer to passing! 2nd reading was completed yesterday!

5/14/2009 Senate Second Reading
5/14/2009 Senate Senate Floor Amendment No. 1 Adopted; Murphy
5/14/2009 Senate Placed on Calendar Order of 3rd Reading May 15, 2009

Stunt Man Mike1982 days ago

Any updates? I just checked the general assembly page and don't see any new posts since 5/14? I came across this page last Friday after I was just pulled for medium tinted front windows. After reading all the posts here it sounds like this is a last minute push for revenue on the part of local law enforcement - which is an ABUSE OF TAX PAYER MONEY! Why tax the hell out of the citizens and then still increase them to the the highest in the nation, put up traffic cameras, and then go after safe driving motorists just to shake them down for even more money.
Either this bill passes or I get window tint plates ( unfortunately this will cost me money and time) - but I refuse to take off the tint!

Thee Brown Hornet1981 days ago

You get a ticket for window tint on the plates too....trust me!

Still Tinted1981 days ago

i got 35% all around on my car, live in Schaumburg. got my first tint ticket in april this year, no fine, but had court. went to the shop where i got the tint, told him to give me some scrap tint to show in court, and went to court, showed them the "removed" tint, and the ticket was dropped (also had a no front plate ticket.)

just got another ticket this morning. tint and no front plate. i drive an is300, ALL FOUR of my windows were rolled down (its warm out). the cop told me to ROLL them up, and he got me. thats so freaking unfair. Court again, now im worried, not sure what the judge will do. I am not paying $250 nor am I removing any of my tint.

HB3325 needs to pass before my court date june 9th!!

Stunt Man Mike1980 days ago

Still Tinted, I was thinking I would be safe driving with my windows down but your story just shot a big hole in that idea. I tried to find the doctors form online and it wasn't available except in a cached version from Google. When I called the Sec of State they told me it was taken down due to abuse... hmmm abuse? How exactly did they determine this, and what percentage of people with WT plates were abusing them because I'll tell you I've only seen 1 or two cars with those plates. So isn't it more likely that taking down the form and eliminating the only option for legitimately having tint is just one more way of ensuring their last minute push for tint tickets will be successful?

Still Tinted1980 days ago

Yeah, guys be careful, I thought I was safe driving with my tinted windows down, not anymore. Cops have nothing better to do on nice days like today. My buddy who works in the same company as me just got a no front plate/seat belt ticket 15 minutes after they got me.

I've been seeing more and more cars around Illinois with front tinted windows, don't know if that's just me or what.

So the law needs to pass. Can't wait to shove it in the court's face, what a stupid law.

Stunt Man Mike,
I remember that PDF form for WT plates, my friend has those plates, I am going to try and find it for you guys and post a link.

Still Tinted1980 days ago

Here you guys go, whoever needs this form for WT plates, found it cached in Google's directory. Might as well wait for HB3325 and see what happens.

CT1980 days ago

Contact representative Suzanne "Suzie" Bassi's office and express your support. It helps.

CT1980 days ago

We have sent this story to ABC, CBS and NBC in the hopes that one of them will pick up the story. Let's see what happens.

CT1980 days ago

Just got a returned email from NBC... "Delivery to the following recipients failed"... Their "tips" email is worthless.

Still Tinted1980 days ago

Which story? About HB3325?

Also, I just sent Suzie Bassi an email regarding my frustration over this matter. Let's see what happens.

Contact CLTV?
For urgent news tips, call 630-574-2588.

CT1980 days ago

I sent this story (as well as to WGN). I will try CLTV next.

Still Tinted1980 days ago

I contacted NBC through their form on their website, who knows if they will actually get it/read it.

Hoping for the best. The cops are still out where I got busted, busting other people. What nonsense.

WHY ME1980 days ago

I got a ticket today, it was $75... I told the officer that it was factory installed and he's gonna tell me that it isn't...How in the hell do you know...so I researched my car and tinted windows are standard on the car...Thank God for this website...Then it doesn't help that I live in a "bad" area...so all the state police officers think I have drugs or something...WHICH I DO NOT...it is truly ridiculous this law...How do they expect the residents of IL to respond to this law when it doesn't say anything about factory installed tints...I hope this law passes soon as well...I'm only in IL for the summer til I go back to school in the fall...this is really ridiculous...and when I pass local cops nobody says anything...matter of fact I see soooooooooooooo many cars that have front tints its crazy...but no00oo just because I choose to take the backway to get home I get a ticket...matter of fact...the state police pulled over somone in front of my house the other day..it was just one truck a suburban at that and it took three cars to take care of him...that is ridiculous...then I had my car parked in the driveway then nobody said anything... GRRRRRRRRRR this makes me want to change my major now! lol

Angry1980 days ago

I just got at ticket this morning on my way back from my brother's home. I've had my car, which I purchased with tinted windows for over 5 years now. And I just got a ticket. This is CRAZY. And I am outraged!!!! If I had known that this was going to be a problem I wouldn't have got a car with tinted windows. And YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH IT. WHICH REALLY PISSED ME OFF!!! Illinois has got to do better than what it's doing!!!! I pay my taxes for this.. I would think the officer would have better things to do. Like stop a sex offender or stop someone robbing a store or anything useful. But to give me a ticket at that price. I speechless I don't know what else to do. But I do know this I will be getting this taken care of today.

Kneel Sea1980 days ago

Get a lawyer and keep postponing until the law passes.

Alex Romero1979 days ago

House Bill 3325 just passed! 46 yahhh, 3 nah haha YES lets all enjoy our tints FTW!

Alex Romero1979 days ago

Guys please print out the bill at: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3325&GAID=10&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=46080&SessionID=76&GA=96
and keep a copy in your car just in case the man pulls you over. Likelyhood is there gonna try and stop people and take advantage of the uninformed, also please make sure to pass the word around to friend, families & strangers for that matter!

Still Tinted1979 days ago

Great news. Please keep a copy with you, as the police will try their best to get people still. Can't wait to go to court and get this dropped, when I get the ticket yesterday.

Awesome!

Still Tinted1979 days ago

Actually I believe Governor Quinn still has to sign this and then its 100% certain.

Alex Romero1979 days ago

I got (2)-tickets this months (500.00) which I gladly paid as I love my windows on my car; anyone know if there is any legal recourse or procedure that entitles me to pursue a refund? I don't really care if I do or not but if I can get it back that'll good.

Stunt Man Mike1979 days ago

Any idea what this means, and are we still waiting for the governor to sign off on it?
5/21/2009 House Placed on Calendar Order of Concurrence Senate Amendment(s) 1

fM1979 days ago

does this mean that you can have 35% on the front windows as long as you don't have anything darker than 35% on the back two?

Fred1979 days ago

As far as i can tell or know you can have 35% tint on all windows except the windshield, with this bill.

Fred1979 days ago

One more thing, at what point will it actually be legal to get tints? I know the bill passed...but when can i actually put tints on and get away with it.....legally

FM1979 days ago

fred: i believe somewhere inside the bill it says that it takes effect immediately so once the governor signs the bill i'm assuming. anyone know for sure?

John Q. Public1979 days ago

Back to the gentleman's original post, I also would like to know when this is going on the governor's desk to be signed. While I am extremely happy that the bill passed, I WILL NOT go to a shop to get my windows tinted until the bill actually becomes law.

Again, does anyone have any idea as to when the governor is supposed to receive this bill to sign it?

Fred1977 days ago

So my car has tinted rear windows from the factory. which means i can get 35% tint on the 2 front windows to match, correct?

Still Tinted1974 days ago

"Senate Floor Amendment No. 1 Motion to Concur Recommends be Adopted Rules Committee; 004-000-000"

Anyone know what that means?

Stunt Man Mike1974 days ago

I don't know what it means but here's what happened on another bill with the same motion. Looks like it passed both houses, executives, and was then sent to the governor to approve before becoming public act.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=366&GAID=10&DocTypeID=SB&SessionID=76&GA=96

Still Tinted1973 days ago

Lets just hope it goes through before everyone is gone on summer leave!

let’s take this law and put it in perspective:

I could park in a hospital zone, making it inconvenient for an ambulance to deliver a person who needs medical attention immediately, and get a cheaper fine. Here I’m adding unnecessary wait time for an individual who desperately needs medical attention…but apparently having tinted windows is worse.

I could park in a handicapped spot, inconveniencing a disabled citizen, and get a cheaper fine. Here I’m making a disabled person, already inconvenienced by their condition, park farther away than necessary. But apparently having tinted windows is worse.

I could park in front of a fire hydrant in front of a building ready to catch fire, and get a cheaper fine. In this situation, I’m impeding the fire department from SAVING LIVES! Again, having tinted windows is worse, based on the fines.

This clearly puts a wrench in the “logic” (and I use that term VERY loosely) used to craft the tinted window law in IL.

Tinted and Furious1964 days ago

Oh and I emailed my comments above to "Suze"...hopefully this rings a bell to someone in charge.

Fred1960 days ago

Any update as to whether or not quinn is going to sign this?

Still Tinted1960 days ago

Had court yesterday (2nd tint ticket in Schaumburg in 2 months).

Prosecutor saw that I was just in court about a month ago, and the judge fined me $250. I said I couldn't pay it yet, and walked out.

Damn. Quinn hurry up!

BurnedToo1959 days ago

Another one of the uninformed masses joins the ranks of folks here for getting tinted windows ticket yesterday. Having two tickets on the car (additional was "improperly displayed sticker") at the same time is stab in the eye. My tax dollars at work to steal more of my dollars... now how about those crime statistics CPD?

Although not a law yet, can I use the current status of the bill to leverage my contesting of the ticket?

Tinted and lovin' it.1959 days ago

I am very excited about this bill!! I am tired of rolling down my windows in the rain and cold when I see a cop in Schaumburg and Hoffman Estates - because they are relentless there! Anyway, I am confused on the percentages. I was told there 4 levels of tint, light (barely there), medium, dark and limo. I have dark. Can someone interprit what a 35% tint equates too? Thanks!

Tick Tock1958 days ago

So it has been almost two weeks since this passed both the house and senate. Does anyone know if Madigan has to send this bill to the governor, or is it his choice?

Stunt Man Mike1958 days ago

They're in no hurry since they're in meetings trying to figure out how to make up the $7 billion state deficit. I think they're just going to keep milking this cash cow for a while longer until they find another way to increase taxes... Between the crooked state and local government, the lousy weather, high cost of living, and crime I wonder why the heck I still live in Illinois.

BurnedToo1958 days ago

Madigan has 30days to present it to Governor and then Quinn has 60days to sign it or veto it.

So we might waiting another 60-90days just to see this bill get vetoed. Afterall it hurts their pockets.... especially in Chicago.

Impatiently Waiting!1958 days ago

RE: "Tinted and lovin' it"

Light, medium, dark, and limo are what you would get if you purchased your tint from Wal-Mart. Tint shops will do many more then four different percentages, I believe they commonly go in 5% intervals. However, there are four common tint percentages and I will use those to make an educated guess to try and answer your question. Also know that (35%)=(percent of light that passes through tint film).

Light = 50% / Medium = 35% / Dark = 20% / Limo = 5%

So if you’re dark, my guess is you will still be illegal after the law passes. 35% is not as nice as 20% but believe me 35% is a great thing for this state. Take what you can get, 35% is actually darker then most states will allow on those windows.

Anyone know where the signing of this bill will be posted on the web so I can check everyday? Sign the Bill already! I can’t take the heat anymore! I’m miserable with out my tinted windows!

Tinted and lovin' it1958 days ago

To: Impatiently Waiting!

Thanks very much for the info. Actually it was a tint shop that gave me the light, medium, dark catagories oddly enough. Anyway, thanks very much for the information - much appreciated!

So then that begs the question, who is going to take off their dark tints and replace them with mediums (35%)? It seems as though someone like me with dark tints will still get pulled over and if I do they will come down harder on me once this is passed (If Im reading this legislation right). I'll probably get them changed out just so if I do get pulled over I can rub their nose in it - It's legal and there aint nuthin' you can do bout' it!

I cant express how happy I am that this is happening!!!

Impatiently Waiting!1957 days ago

RE: Tinted and lovin' it

Okay yeah, I can definitely see why a tint shop wouldn’t want to just start throwing percentages at you if you’re asking. Light, dark, ect is much easier to understand if your not familiar with tint.

Your second question is a very good one that I have been pondering since I herd about the new law? Unless you have 5% “limo” tint its hard to tell what the tint percentage is of a car is just by looking at it? Your interior color makes a big difference; Legal 35% with black interior will look darker from the outside then legal 35% with a light tan. You can definitely “ball park” a tint percentage by looking at it, but at what point will the police get tired of wasting there time pulling over people with and not being able to give them tickets? I really don’t know how the police will be at first but I think after a while it will be more like Wisconsin were I grew up? Tint laws are stricter then the proposed Illinois law and I honestly don’t personally know anyone that ever got a ticket for any tint there. I also didn’t actually know anyone whose tint wasn’t illegal including myself. I think because crime is a much bigger problem here it will not be as loose is WI but as long as you can still see in to the car I don’t really think you will have trouble? So if you have light interior with 20% you might be okay but if you have the money 35% isn’t bad and not having to worry about illegal tint every time you see a cop might be worth it. Another way to look at is take a risk and if you get caught one ticket will be a large percentage of what it would have cost you to just change them?

Seeing what a saw in WI; Illinois did a really good thing by going 35% instead of 50% like most other states. 35% is a big jump from 50% and I think I will make people much happier and more willing to comply to the new law. 50% is definitely better then nothing but almost not worth the money? 50% tempts people to break the law because it’s so light and if people are already breaking the law then the phrase “If you’re going to go, go all out” comes to mind.

Still Tinted1957 days ago

Well if the law passes completely, then the police will definitely need devices that can measure the tint level. I am pretty sure they are already out there, someone can link to it. But yeah. That is what would happen.

Impatiently Waiting!1954 days ago

RE: Still Tinted

You are correct. They are out there and they are called tint meters or light meters, something like that? To use this device, law enforcement must first pull the car over to get a measurement. So what I was talking about is how it will be hard for police officers to tell what the tint percentages are of these windows just by looking at the car as it passes by. Unless you’re so dark that you can’t see into the car I don’t think they will waste there time pulling you over for tint once the law passes? If you have slightly illegal tint after the new law, cops will pull you over for speeding or something else and tack on a tint ticket if you give them attitude. That’s what I think will happen?

supporter of HB33251954 days ago

Woot Woot! Status: Sent to Governor 6-12-09

http://www.statesurge.com/members/164508-tom-cross-illinois

supporter HB33251954 days ago

sorry... no Woot. ... it was a status of another Bill :(

Only_In_Chicago1954 days ago

My car was parked while I went into a store for 10 mins. Came out and saw a ticket for $250 for tinted windows. My tint blocks 20% sunlight – you can see into my car day or night.
It's hard when one tries to be a model citizen and is penalized for something as trivial as this for $250. As a respecter of those in authority, it makes you think twice about giving respect to those in the blue uniform. Time / money would be spent more efficiently by catching crooks and keeping drugs off of our streets. This will limit any future visits to the city which in turn will have an overall affect due to less spending. (Less revenue to the city of Chicago). I AM PISSED OFF!!!

sinisterc61953 days ago

guys just take a picture of your car before it gets tinted, rack up your tickets for the said tint then go to court, the judge has thrown it out every time, works also for front plate tickets (my car has no where to mount a plate)

geckoman1953 days ago

-sinisterc6

Doesn't work in Chicago. You have 7 days to pay fines/tickets here in Chicago or they start doubling. My brother had his truck ticketed outside his house, they came back ticketed again the next day and it was booted and towed. Since privatizing most of the low-level offenses (parking violations on city streets, towing, etc.), you can't "play" with the system. If you've every been downtown to the circuit court, you'll know what I'm saying. I once was given a ticket and a court date. The cop wrote one date on my copy and another on his. Of course, the actual court date (his copy) was earlier than the date on my ticket. Ticket was I think $25 or $35. To appeal would cost be upwards of $75 and another cleared date to go downtown. Just isn't cost effective. Only motivation is principal and the city is counting on that!

Tick Tock1952 days ago

Hey have you guys seen this bill also sponsored by Susan bassi.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=4327&GAID=10&DocTypeID=HB&SessionID=76&GA=96

It is currently being sent to the governor. It reaffirms having tint be illegal.

supporterhb33251952 days ago

Tick Tock - HB4327 appears to aimed at the "installer" for violation of the current law that has existed since Jan08. Sure... let HB4327 pass, then HB3325 will hopefully get passed next - HB4327 would be bad for a tint installer though because they would be held accountable for complying with the new 50% or 35% tint requirements as set in HB3325. That is my thinking.

Alexis1950 days ago

I have NY plates and received a ticket this week for my windows being tinted. I have the driver, passenger, rear and trunk windows tinted. Can they legally give tickets like this to out of state plates? Does anyone know where I can go to get my tint read and 'certified' so that I can bring this to court. My car is a dark grey color and the interior is black-- so of course the tint looks darker than it is. It is tinted at 35%, allowing 65% light transmittance.

Impatiently Waiting!1948 days ago

RE: Alexis

Read line 21 of the state law...

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=76&GA=96&DocTypeId=HB&DocNum=3325&GAID=10&LegID=&SpecSess=&Session=

I take that as they cannot give you a ticket with out of state plates in Illinois.

Impatiently Waiting!1948 days ago

RE: re: Alexis

Sorry, read line 21 *of section 7* of the state law...

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=76&GA=96&DocTypeId=HB&DocNum=3325&GAID=10&LegID

Alexis1948 days ago

'Impatiently Waiting!'
Thank you so much for your reference information. I can not wait to go to court armed with all of this information!

I really appreciate it.

Fred1943 days ago

This has finally been sent to the governor as of today. Officially! Lets hope he signs it

Still Tinted1940 days ago

Hoping for the best. Nazi State of Illinois needs to listen to the people!

Mr. Mexican1935 days ago

I live in Peoria, Ill I was pulled over yesterday by a cop driving a wagon. He claims I made an illegal right turn with out stopping at a red light. THE DAMN THING WAS GREEN as he was stopped at his light. After mine went red, his went green and he rushed to pull me over. He then asked for me to roll up my window and yes its tinted I believe 35 or 40% very much see through. I have a skin condition in which being in sunlight makes me breakout in uncomfortable hives. I knew I wasnt supposed to have my windows tinted but I said what the heck if it will help me. Anyway I dont have a docs notice and will be obtaining one. The cop gave me 2 tickets one for failure to obey traffic light and one for the tint......I WAS HOTTT. Its the 4th of July and there are plenty of intoxicated people driving around, crimes being committed and so on. It makes me mad that my tax dollars go to pay this idiots salary so he can rape me for another $75. I will be calling the state on Monday. HB3325 MUST PASS! If not we must all on this page come together to push for it again. Maybe start petitions?

Peoria Sucks1934 days ago

I was in Peoria today and got pulled over. I have had my Tint on since I bought the Car from the dealership. The tint was on the vehicle when I got the car. Peoria has never had an issue till today. I was pulled and never even asked why I had the tint or anything. Boom $75 ticket. I had expressed the law waiting on the governor to sign it. She didn't care she said if you don't like go to court and fight it. Peoria has people being murdered and your going to worry about a car with Window Tint? Peoria Sucks and I am happy I don't live in the S#%&$ city

Joe1933 days ago

I actually looked at this bill and HB4327 as written. Both have been sent to the governor but looks like he is not signing anything. He is also sitting on HB 182 which should be passed but looks like HB3325 and HB4327 are canceling each other out. Anyway, looks like HB 4327 is better. Although, as written on here, they look the same but when you go to the bills as written, they look different.

Kevin1932 days ago

So I have just moved to Chicago from out of state and had just gotten my driver's license and license plate yesterday. I had left my car legally parked on the street and when I come back, of course I have a ticket for $250 for illegal tint. I will be contesting the ticket, hoping they will forgive it based on the fact that I literally had an Illinois plate for less than 24 hours when getting the ticket; or that the law will have changed by then. One question though: Since I live in Chicago, the ticket states I violated Chicago Municipal Code 9-76-200. If Illinois state law is changed, what effect will that have on the Chicago Municipal Code; i.e., will tint be legal in Illinois but not Chicago until the Municipal Code is changed?

Tick Tock1931 days ago

Kevin - The City of Chicago will have to abide by the state law if it is passed. Just like how individual states have to abide to federal law.

Brian (no longer tinted)1926 days ago

I was just mailed a tint ticket for $250. NOW THEY ARE MAILING THEM?! Anyways, I finally caved in and removed my front tints (3 hours of work btw). I am going to contest this in court. In my opinion, they will never pass this bill as long as it's a cash cow for the city. Take a look at their budget deficit if you don't believe me.

Best of luck to everyone, especially those that stay tinted.

CT1925 days ago

That is just unreal! What a ridiculous abuse of power.

Mike1924 days ago

How can Suzanne Bassi sponser two different bills, with two completely different results. The bill we want is HB3325, but she also sponsored HB4327 which does the exact OPPOSITE of what 3325 does. How can she do this?

BurnedToo1923 days ago

Brian (no longer tinted), can you please elaborate on how did you get this violation through in-mail ticket? They surely can't judge your tinted windows through a red-light camera.... well unless the windows are painted black all-around.

Indian1923 days ago

Get over being upset about the tint law--the main reason is to protect our police when they have to approach a car. Their lives are on the line--they want to be able to see the occupants and hope they aren't about to use a gun on them. Wouldn't you if that was your job? Rules are made many times to save lives. How do you as a driver even identify someone with dark tint if they try to run you off the road or hit you if you can't see who is driving the car? A license plate alone is not always enough.The law is not just for a few to have to obey.

Kevin1923 days ago

Indian: If the tint law is in place to protect the cops, does that mean that Illinois cops are more important or in greater danger than cops in the 45 other states that allow tint? Somehow 90% of cops are able to do their job safely with tinted front side windows.

Also, I emailed my alderman's office, and they said that even if Illinois passes a law allowing tint, the Chicago Municipal Code will supercede that law. So tint will still be illegal with a $250 ticket in Chicago until the Municipal Code is changed (at least according to my alderman's office).

Mike1923 days ago

Kevin, from what I understand, city law can never supercede state law.

Whoever forwarded my question to Andrea, thank you very much.
And Andrea, thank you very much for that explanation. Now it all makes sense.

Matt1922 days ago

Unfortunately a town or city ordinance CAN trump a state law.

BurnedToo1922 days ago

Indian - That is why House Bill 3325 does not allow any amount of darkness on the tint and presents a 50% VLT limit. Moreover what is more preposterous is raising this fine $25 fine to $250 from January 2009. That clearly shows, the intent of enforcing the law was not protection of law enforcement officers but milking the residents for the Daley fund. Not acceptable!

Brian (no longer tinted)1919 days ago

BurnedToo: My $250 ticket wasn't from a red light camera. My car was parked on Logan Blvd near California on a Sunday MORNING about a month ago. During the day, you can see everything inside of the car from 5 feet away. It's just surprising that they have taken on mailing tint tickets in addition to the usual "sticky window approach" (i drive a late model red accord coupe with 35% tint all around, well it was all around at the time...)

More power to you guys who remain tinted, I'm not playing around with any more $250 tickets. And the city/state aren't going to stop their cash cow at a time when their budgets are in the red.

Tinted and lovin' it1918 days ago

RE: Indian - In my opinion the notion that not allowing driver and passenger door tinting is protecting the police is very, very lame. There are millions of vehicles with LEGAL factory tint in place on the rear passenger doors and back window that make it impossible for a cop to see in as they are walking up to a car - anyone could crouch down in a back seat. A commercial van for example, with no windows at all in the back could easily hide a person who intends to harm the approaching officer. Most SUV's and many cars are very similar because tinting the windows behind the driver is legal and they can be as black as you want as long as you have mirrors on both sides. Besides, don’t most people roll down their window when a cop approaches anyway? I just don’t buy it, it's an excuse to make money. The entire state is being penalized for the actions of a few morons and they are making a lot of money enforcing it. Which in Illinois, does not surprise me one bit since the name Illinois seems to be synonymous with the term corruption.

Peoria Sucks1918 days ago

"Provides that is a petty offense and a Class C misdemeanor for a second offense for an installer to install window treatment on motor vehicles that do not have specified license plates or stickers" So want does that mean? Andrea had answered the question but is it saying you will need a sticker? I am confused.

Impatiently Waiting!1918 days ago

re:Peoria Sucks
Right now if you have plates or a sticker you have a medical exemption and the tint laws do not apply to you. The new law has nothing to do with those people. As long as they have the correct documentation from the state they can have any tint they want. If your not one of those people and you don’t have a sticker or WT plate and you have illegal tint (what is still illegal once new law passes) the penalties will be greater to who ever installed your tint.

F.Y.I. It’s possible they could require you to have a sticker saying you comply to the law, but from what I have read I that is not something they are going to do. I believe they do it in other states? If they did that you wouldn’t have to apply for a sticker, you would just get one for free or maybe a small fee. It would be easy to get one. Not like today where you have to lie and try to convince someone you need tint for medical reasons.

TickTock1908 days ago

If after 60 days the governor has not signed or vetoed the bill, what happens?

Fred1905 days ago

Does anyone know how many days Quinn has left to sign this?

Peoria Sucks1904 days ago

If does nothing it automatically becomes a bill. He has till August 22nd or August 26th

Peoria Sucks1904 days ago

August 25th. If he does nothing it automatically becomes law.

TickTock1904 days ago

Thanks.

yumchocolat1903 days ago

BRIAN you said you were going to contest this in court? Did you and if you did were you successful? I got the ticket last Friday PARKED downtown.

I'm thinking about contesting this in court and sending them pictures of my car. I'm in violation of 9-76-220 and it states that The compliance violation has been corrected prior to the hearing ; provided however that this defense shall not apply to this section....so I wouldn't be able to contest this in court?

Matt1899 days ago

I have been stalking this page daily, getting excited to tint the front windows on my truck. With my luck, he is going to veto it on the 24th.

BurnedToo1898 days ago

yumchocolat

I got fined for violation 9-76-220 (parked car with tinted/ smoked front windows) and contested it. Plead guilty at the time of violation but provided evidence of correction prior to the hearing. However charges were held by hearing officer since correction prior to hearing is not a defensive argument.

Go ahead and contest it (if its worth your money). There is a 50/50 chance. Take pictures as evidence of correction.

FinePrint1898 days ago

Good news and bad news...

First the bad: The new bill adds a clause that further restricts who is eligible for the WT plates. Only skin conditions now qualify. Medically significant eye problems do not. See below:

"However, no exemption from the requirements of subsection (a-5) shall be granted for any condition, such as light sensitivity, for which protection from the direct rays of the sun can be adequately obtained by the use of sunglasses or other eye protective devices."

This is such bull. I've had a legitimate medical excuse and doctor's note for five years since I was diagnosed with an eye problem, but never even had to use it while living in California or Massachusetts. I was never ticketed or stopped while living in either of those two states, despite both having similarly strict restrictions on driver's and passenger's side windows. This doesn't affect a ton of us, but it still affects me! I've been living in IL for a year now, and I got my first ever window tint ticket over the weekend to the tune of $250! I couldn't even show my doctor's note because I got the ticket while parked!

The good news for the rest of you, however, is that the SOS has already started operating by the new wording in HB3325. I called Springfield today to figure out how to apply for the special WT plate, and they told me their legal counsel has instructed them to no longer qualify applicants with eye disorders, "based on the new law."

If that's how the SOS is already handling things, you can probably infer that HB3325 will be signed into law.

What's really gets me peeved though is that the SOS is operating by the new law regarding WT plates (meaning I can't get one), yet the meter maids are still operating by the old law and gave me a $250 ticket for my 35% tint.

I'm definitely contesting this one...

Brian (no longer tinted)1897 days ago

Yumchocolat: My court date is in 2 weeks. I know that if you admit guilt and then fix it and bring in pictures, you will still be forced to pay (like BurnedToo). I'm thinking about just speaking their language (lying) and claim that my windows were not tinted and that the officer perhaps had trouble determining this because of the time of day, color of my car, etc and bring in photos of my (now) untinted windows. It'll be my word against the officer's but at the very least I'll have photos with me. I'll let you guys know how it goes (most likely me losing $250).

Tee1896 days ago

If the governor takes no action on HB3325, when does the bill actually become law?

BurnedToo1895 days ago

Tee,
If there is no action taken by Governor, HB3325 would effective as law on August 27, 2009.

BurnedToo1895 days ago

Brian
A court date after 2weeks from now significantly increases your chances of getting the fine dropped (if the bill passes). Make sure there is no pictorial evidence associated with citation number.

If you have back windows tinted on a dark interior and parked in the shade on a cloudy evening.... mistake can happen. Good luck. :-)

Koebot (Still Tinted)1895 days ago

I'm really starting to hate Chicago, the city were I was born and raised. I couldn't believe it when I parked my car for 15min on 13th & Halsted then came out and seen a ticket for $250 for tinted windows!!!!!!!!!! This completely blew me and after the increase in taxes and now tinted window fines, I seriously need to relocate soon. If the Olympics come here I can only imagine how worse other things may get. Hell, taxes may go up more. I have 5% tint all the way around but I'm praying that this law passes then I will happily down grade to 35% to avoid another $250 fine. I'm thinking of giving them a reason to 250 from me. >;) For now I'm keeping it but if I get another one I will have to take it off. And that will really, really, really piss me off!!!

Peoria Sucks1891 days ago

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=4327&GAID=10&GA=96&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=47207&SessionID=76

HB4327 passed. So now the question is does HB3325 still going to pass?

tinted tahoe1890 days ago

come on, Andrea! anything new?? thanks.

Cargent051889 days ago

What exactly does this mean:
"Or less than 35% light transmittance if the windows to the rear of the driver already have certain window treatment applied"

What is a "certain" window treatment? If I have 20% on the back and rear-side windows, is 35% allowable on the front-side windows? Right now, that 20% on the back windows is perfectly legal, and I can't see them changing that... right?

Confused1889 days ago

Well based on what I've read, if you have less than 30% on the back, the darkest you can go is 50% on the front. But if you have 35% or lighter on the back, you can go with as dark as 35% on the front and make it at least a little bit more uniform. The latest version of the law clears this up a little bit.

Basically, the darkest you can go is 30% all around (except front windshield) given their 5% variance language.

What I'm confused about is the passage of HB4327 which has the old law's language in it. When HB3325 gets signed by the governor, we get our tint. When HB4327 passes, do we lose our tint, because its language isn't written with the amendments in HB3325??

I think1889 days ago

From what I understand the HB4327 bill is mainly towards the people that actually install the tints but it does not contradict HB3325. Andrea answers it better on the top of this page.

Fred1887 days ago

What about those of us with vehicles from the factory that have the factory tint on the rear windows? My stock tint from GM is 17%. I have a tint meter to verify this. So if that is true then I can't go any darker than a 50% tint on the front two windows? What if i were to retint the stock windows to 30-35% then could i go with 30-35 on the front windows also?

BurnedToo1886 days ago

Fred
Any less than 30% on rear windows (your case) means NO TINT ON FRONT windows. Nothing at all.
If you go between 30%-35% on rear windows then you can keep 50% on front windows.
Otherwise you can do 35% wrap-around.... i.e. uniform 35% rear and front. But no scenario allows you less than 35% on front windows.

Mike1884 days ago

^^So you wouldn't be able to do 35% on front, and say 20% on the rears?

not worth it1884 days ago

It's definitely not worth the $250 tinted window fine...

BurnedToo1884 days ago

That is correct Mike.

Matt1883 days ago

I have made an appointment with the tint place for Thursday :)

I'm getting excited, hope I don't need to cancel it.

Joe1883 days ago

Wow BurnedToo you are deffinitly giving people the wrong information. If you have less than 30% in the back, then you CAN have 50% or lighter in the front.

BurnedToo1883 days ago

That is not correct Joe.
One would need to keep 35% with a 5% variance (thus atleast 30%) on the rear for 50% on the front windows. Even measuring 29% on rear windows and tinted front windows of any darkness will get you a nice ticket. However you are free to tint your car however you want. I just to give people the right information. :)

As of now it seems the bill might be getting vetoed. Please call the Governor's office to express your opposition. The Governors office phone number is....217-814-2121.

BurnedToo1883 days ago

Sorry, the correct number for Gov. office is 217-782-6830. Please leave a polite message supporting your opinion on this bill.

Matt1883 days ago

It's 5:30, I am anxiously waiting an update. It would really suck if the process needs to start all over again.

REAL STORY1883 days ago

HB3325 in current form would not allow any factory tint on MPV's. Police could ticket individuals for having factory tint. HB3325 was vetoed to change language so film can be applied to front doors on MPV with factory tinted glass in the rear. It will be divided into front and back windows for MPV's. HB3325 will go to veto session with approved language and support from the governor. All is still good to GO!! Will just have to wait til OCT for bill to go into affect.

BurnedToo1883 days ago

Thank you REAL STORY.

REAL STORY1883 days ago

You are welcome!

Matt1883 days ago

Looks like I'm waiting until the end of October to get my front windows tinted on my Explorer...

REAL STORY1883 days ago

Couple months will be fine after 20 yrs of bad statue.

Matt1883 days ago

Real Story- how did you get this info, was it confirmed Also, thanks!

REAL STORY1883 days ago

I know the right people! You will see as more info comes out in next couple days. Someone PLEASE send to Facebook HB3325 and tell them governor supports bill, its not the Chicago police. Just need to change language.

BurnedToo1883 days ago

REAL STORY
I appreciate you bringing the info but I think Governor showing support for this bill is a load of bs. Why did he have to wait until 59th day to change the language?
IMO, he is delaying it as much as possible but again its a personal opinion.

REAL STORY1883 days ago

I understand your concern but only time will till. I had that first impression also, you will see.

REAL STORY1883 days ago

This is orginal:

on multipurpose passenger vehicles, as defined by Section 1-148.3b of this Code, a nonreflective tinted film originally applied by the manufacturer, that allows at least 50% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by any law enforcement official metering the light ransmittance, may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver.

As you can tell "tinted film originally appplied by the manufacturer, that allows at least 50% VLT" MVP's rear windows from factory are approximately 20% VLT which would make a factory tint illegal.

REAL STORY1883 days ago

Please tell everyone to stop calling the governors office. His changes have been noted in the veto thus he is out of the picture. It is now time to call your senators or representatives and thank them for voting for HB3325 and you would like them to vote to concur with changes, thus window film will be legal.

Please send to Facebook HB3325

CarGuy1883 days ago

i'm surprised he hasn't signed it by now. legal front window tint = more $ into the economy from all of the people who have been waiting for this to go into affect. either they will pay a shop to do it (which is paying for materials and labor) or do it themselves (which is still paying for materials). so either way it would give it a little bit of a boost from the anticipation of the auto world; especially car enthusiests.

chuck1882 days ago

this law just passed on 8-14-2009
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=4327&GAID=10&GA=96&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=47207&SessionID=76

Matt1882 days ago

So does this mean that he signed it, but it could go back to being illegal if it gets vetoed in October? Meaning, that I can get my windows tinted legally?

chuck1882 days ago

im not sure what it means. the bill everyone seems to be waiting on is hb3325...the bill that is law effective 1-1-2010 is hb4327.. im not sure whats going on

Daniel1882 days ago

Real Story said "Please tell everyone to stop calling the governors office...."

HA!

DON'T STOP CALLING! He works for us! Call all you want! Who cares if it is out of his hands now. He shouldn't have waited until the last second to veto it.

Facebook33251882 days ago

Todd: The information concerning asking for people to stop calling the Governor's Offices are duly noted. However, I am just one person, as well as the page's other admin. The people can keep calling the governor's office TO THANK HIM for finding a flaw in the bill. The complaints as to how many days progressed to the veto are null. I would rather him take this long and find a critical flaw than sign it into law and have innocent people unjustly victimized.

Ladies and Gentlemen, thanks for your continued support of the Facebook ILHB3325 Page... I think that we have all come together and learned a little bit more about how State Government is supposed to work.

Tint for Summer 2010!!!

-Todd

Bob1882 days ago

I read that HB4327 is now law that makes any tint on the front windows illegal and NO ONE is talking about this. It seems like they slipped that one through because everyone is hyped up about HB3325.

Facebook33251882 days ago

Todd: Bob, HB4327 deals with the penalties of installing/repairing tint that is prohibited under the law as it sits. There are already penalties in place for persons owning a car with illegal tint, HB4327 extended those penalties to the person/shop that installed or repaired the illegal tint. Right now tint on front windows is illegal so under HB4327, if HB3325 were never in the picture, installing or repairing illegal tint would get both the shop/installer and the driver a hefty penalty.

Bob1882 days ago

Facebook3325: At this moment HB437 isn't a law because it doesn't become law until Jan 1. The same with everyone saying they were hoping HB3325 would get signed so they could go out the next day and tint their front windows, NOT TRUE because it wouldn't become law until Jan 1 and since HB3325 has to go back, it might not become law until July 1.

I guess my real question is why would you need HB3325 and HB4327 separate? It would be much simpler to have one law that said what both says.

Facebook33251882 days ago

Todd: A lot of people don't remember that HB3325 originally dealt with school bus markings. I think that HB4327 was already being worked on for the penalties when the decision was made to strip out the original idea that HB3325 dealt with and made into the tint bill.

In an ideal world, both issues would have been taken care of with one bill, but HB4327 was too far into readings to tack on the tint bill that HB3325 is.

Marc1882 days ago

If this bill passes can my Car have 50% tint or 35% tint? This is pretty confusing. 50% tint is almost useless in my opinion

Solution1882 days ago

Register your car with a family member or friend that lives out of State.

The more and more I think about it, there is nothing good about living in IL. Everything from the high taxes, to these dumb laws and then vetoing the bill at the last second. Why couldn't he have veto'ed it a month ago? He had it for almost 2 months.

Sorry people, just wanted to vent I guess.

T1882 days ago

so does anyone know the new timeline?
What are the dates...how long for the senate to approve, and then is it another 60 days for the Governor to sign it? If so, i am sure we will be waiting to the last day for this one too.

REAL STORY1882 days ago

Veto session starts 14 OCT, it all depends when the speaker of the house calls the bill for vote. If it gets 3/5 approval it is then sent to the senate, if they have 3/5 approval it should become law immediately, due to the fact the governor has just added recommendations. Veto session is:
http://www.ilga.gov/senate/schedules/Veto%20Fall%20Session%202009.pdf

Governor's message:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09600HB3325gms&GA=96&SessionId=76&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=46080&DocNum=3325&GAID=10&Session=

chicago1882 days ago

sigh, and i just got my car tinted on sunday. why the hell did the governor have to wait for the last minute to veto the bill?

REAL STORY1882 days ago

The governor was not advised of the error in the bill till last week. Someone raised the question about the MPV language last week, it was re-looked at and decision was made to veto and change. It was the best action under the circumstances.

Confused1882 days ago

Can someone translate in laymans terms what exactly the tint law will allow? What tint percents are allowed on each window and what the combinations are? If I have factory tint, can I add tint to make it darker as long as it doesn't go past the thresholds stated in the law? Basic question is can I make all my windows 35%?

Facebook33251881 days ago

Todd: Hi Confused, here is the information that you requested.

Cars:
any windows behind driver tinted below 30% --> No tint legally on windows adjacent to driver

windows behind driver tinted 30-35% --> 50% tint on windows adjacent to driver

windows behind driver not tinted or tinted up to 35% --> up to 35% tint on windows adjacent to driver

Multi-Purpose vehicles with factory applied tint on windows behind the driver:

A tint film of 50% can be used on the windows adjacent to the driver.

Definition of Multi-Purpose Vehicle:
(625 ILCS 5/1‑148.3b) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 1‑148.1)
Sec. 1‑148.3b. Multipurpose passenger vehicle. A motor vehicle with motive power, except a trailer, designed to carry 10 persons or less that is constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for occasional off‑road operation.
(Source: P.A. 90‑89, eff. 1‑1‑98.)

Source: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=062500050HCh.+1&ActID=1815&ChapAct=625%26nbsp%3BILCS%26nbsp%3B5%2F&
ChapterID=49&ChapterName=VEHICLES&SectionID=59126&SeqStart=100000&SeqEnd=30000000&ActName=Illinois+Vehicle+Code.

REAL STORY1881 days ago

windows behind driver not tinted or tinted up to 35% --> up to 35% tint on windows adjacent to driver.

Multi-Purpose vehicles with factory applied tint on windows behind the driver:
A tint film of 50% can be used on the windows adjacent to the driver.

Additional info: percentages have a

Christine1880 days ago

Facebook3325: At this moment HB437 isn't a law because it doesn't become law until Jan 1. The same with everyone saying they were hoping HB3325 would get signed so they could go out the next day and tint their front windows, NOT TRUE because it wouldn't become law until Jan 1 and since HB3325 has to go back, it might not become law until July 1.

(5 ILCS 75/2) (from Ch. 1, par. 1202)
Sec. 2. Bills passed after May 31. A bill passed after May 31 of a calendar year shall become effective on June 1 of the next calendar year unless the General Assembly by a vote of three‑fifths of the members elected to each house provides for an earlier effective date in the terms of the bill or unless the General Assembly provides for a later effective date in the terms of the bill; provided that if the effective date provided in the terms of the bill is prior to the date the bill becomes a law then the date the bill becomes a law shall be the effective date.
(Source: P.A. 88‑597, eff. 11‑28‑94.)

Christine S.1880 days ago

And if you look here... under the Senate Amendment 1
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3325&GAID=10&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=46080&SessionID=76&SpecSess=&Session=&GA=96

you'll see that the Senate added "Effective Immediately"

unkown1878 days ago

I received a ticket for tinted windows a few years ago in central IL. I moved from northern I'll and never has a problem. What really bothers me is the way the officer wrote the ticket. He was radioed by a traffic camera to give me a ticket. He gave me the ticket. And then I got hassled for the next 3 days and pulled over multiple times. They told me that if I didn't get the tint removed on my front windows they were going to slash the tint with a razor blade. Oh and did I mention that my tint is the lightest u can get. Lighter than factor. So they could see in my car perfectly. I hope this law gets changed B/C it just ridiculous.

Big Cat1878 days ago

Part of me is very happy I'll be able to get all windows tinted.

Part of me is very sad I'll have to pull the 20 percent tint I have off the back windows and replace it on two cars.

default.xbe1878 days ago

unknown: I had the same problem with my last car, it had a 95% tint on the front (just enough to block UV) and you couldnt even tell it was there unless the window was partway down and you saw the edge of the film, luckily i didnt get a ticket but i was reminded rather sternly that it was illegal

better than a friend of mine in IN though, his tints were too dark and the cop made him scrape it all off right there on the side of the road

Brian (no longer tinted)1870 days ago

I had my court date on Friday and got the case thrown out. The ticket I received wasn't legit because it is only to be used as a moving violation, but it was mailed to me instead. So needless to say, I am very relieved! Good luck to you all.

Still Tinted1869 days ago

To keep the tint or not to keep the tint, that is the question. As you may know, I am on 3 tint tickets this year. One more and I am sure my license will be suspended.

I have 30% all around on a black on black IS300. Cop magnet.

Now is it worth keeping the tint over the winter? Surely I do NOT want to drive with windows down in 30 degree weather.

But having only rear tints on a sedan looks REALLY damn ugly if you ask me. If I remove, I am removing all 4 windows.

CT1869 days ago

Man do I feel your pain. I'm in the same boat. I've got a tinted S4 and MCoupe that I am afraid to drive. BLOWS! (so I got an M3 that's still a "virgin" until the law changes).

default.xbe (not tinted yet)1869 days ago

Still Tinted: 30% all around will still be illegal under the new law, so you might as well remove it and get 35% all around when it finally goes into effect

plus I can assure you that cops will be cracking down on tints while they can, they like the old law because its an easy ticket to give out, and it gives them an excuse to pull you over and look for other violations

TheTinter1869 days ago

default.xbe (not tinted yet) you are incorrect. "Still tinted" would still be able to keep 30%. The new law says 35% is legal with a 5% variance. 35-5=30! There you go still tinted. If I were you i'd just remove the front tints now, and get them redone in october if everything goes through. It makes more sense to drive around with no front tints, even though it looks ugly, for a month and only have to get two windows tinted when its legal. Just my 0.02.

default.xbe (not tinted yet)1869 days ago

i would assume the 5% variance would be to compensate for innacuracies in the device they using to measure the tint, so readings of 30-40% would be assumed to be 35%, but a 30% tint could read 25-35%

also just my $0.02 :) so i could be wrong (guess it would be for the courts to decide, yay three-branch government, lol)

Still Tinted1866 days ago

CT - Yeah man, I just bought a Mercedes C class too, going to wait on the law before I tint that one.

default.xbe - I am curious as to how the police will enforce this new law and what devices they will use, and how accurate they will be. Hopefully my 30% doesn't come down to 25%. Last thing I need is a tint ticket after the law passes.

TheTinter - Honestly I am not sure I want to remove the fronts and redo them. I have had these tints since about April, and correct me if I am wrong, tint fades over time(professional install, spent about $200 to get them done at a shop). So this tint I have now is evenly faded together. If I remove the fronts and redo them next month, won't they will look less faded and not look the same? If I remove any tint, I am removing it all at once and redoing it at once.

yumchocolat1849 days ago

Brian how did your court date go? Did you get more fines added on?

I contested by mail and haven't heard from them since got the ticket in July and sent my evidence of windows and a letter in August. Could this bill be holding up my ticket?

yumchocolat1849 days ago

Brian-nm saw your post. hope to get the same conclusion.

Stefreg1841 days ago

I will be glade when this bill is signed or rejected. I live in Bloomington Illinois and I have received 2 tickets for tinted windows in the last 2 month but the crazy thing about it is, I have had this car for four years and I have never received a ticket for this until these last 2 months. This last one I received, I had my front windows down but the passenger side window was up enough for him to see the tint. I mentioned to the office about the bill that was close to being passed and he stated they knew about but until it's passed they will continue to give tickets. Right now, I think it's a cash cow for them now.

poonjahb1840 days ago

So, let me get this straight (since I'm evidently not crazy enough to understand the logic they used in writing this bill)...

My car that currently has 5% behind the driver will not legally be able to have any tint put on the windows adjacent to the driver.

However, my truck with factory tint behind the driver (as long as it is lighter than 35%) can have up to 50% tint applied adjacent to the driver? How does one go about finding out what the tint level is on factory tinted glass (06 F150)?

default.xbe1840 days ago

yumchocolat: The bill wouldn't be holding up your ticket, since it was issued before the bill would be in effect

Stefreg: its defintely a cash cow, always has been, if you do a google search for HB3325 the second result (after the ILGA page) is a police officers forum where they complain another "easy" ticket is being taken away from them

poonjahb: the way i read is you can have 50% on the front regardless of how dark the factory tints in the rear are, so long as they are factory, but im not a lawyer so dont quote me on that :)

Stefreg1838 days ago

What does this mean? 10/5/2009 House Motion Filed Override Amendatory Veto Rep. Suzanne Bassi

default.xbe1838 days ago

It means Rep. Suzanne Bassi wants to ignore the changes proposed by the governor and make the original bill law, it will take a 3/5 vote to override.

If they override it means SUVs with factory tinted rear windows darker than 35% wont be able to tint the front windows.

Matt1832 days ago

Look's like it passed!

default.xbe1832 days ago

it passed in the house, it still has to pass in the senate

Stefreg1832 days ago

So when does it go to the senate?

default.xbe1831 days ago

probably the 28th, 29th or 30th

and if the senate concurs with the governors changes instead of overriding the veto as the house did it will have to go back to the house again

dontcha just love bureaucracy? :)

Tick Tock1831 days ago

Why would it have to go back to the House?

default.xbe1831 days ago

thats only if the senate doesnt override the veto and instead concurs with the governors changes, if the senate overrides it wouldnt have to go back

ken_quick1827 days ago

I personally think you should be able to tint what ever you want however dark you want it, with the exception of the windshield of course. I have 5% all around excluding the windshield and I have to be honest it is very hard to see at night. It would be nice to have a glass (tint film)that is like those eye glasses, during the daylight hours the glass is at 5%, when it's dark the glass is clear or at 35% let mother nature decide how dark the windows should be not our government. Our government is slowly is stripping us from our freedoms, it's a total waste of our tax dollars to have this bill held up for so long. To all you people on the hill, its window tint for Christ sake...we want to stay cooler in the summer and protect what we invest into our vehicles. Protection from thieves (what they can't see they won't want to steal) and mother nature (the UV rays from the sun can really do a lot of damage to a cars interior, and me and my family do not get anymore burns from hot seats and seatbelts that have been sitting in the sun anymore either...think about it...if you invest $10,000.00 on the interior of your vehicle, wouldn't you want to protect it from sun damage? I am no matter what you peeps say on the hill...when I see a cop sitting on the side of the road I just roll down the front windows. They can't pull you over for something they can't see.
How many of you have ever been burned by a hot seat or a hot seat belt???????? Specially if you have kids

ken_quick: I hope you get nailed quite harshly for the tint you have now. Your post is riddled with ignorance.

Guess what? The state government is putting back a freedom if this bill is enacted as law.

With the tint you have now, you are a safety risk to yourself and other drivers. Throw pedestrians into that mix as well. You said it best when you stated: "I have 5% all around excluding the windshield and I have to be honest it is very hard to see at night." I can guarantee that there will be one day when you don't see that car at night, or the person crossing the street legally and you turn into the path and have a collision or a really close call.

The darkest tint percentages that will be able to be used under this bill if enacted is more than sufficient to protect and provide for cooler interiors. Most current window films block 100% of the harmful UVA Rays that untreated car windows do not. Untreated car windows will block UVB Rays. Coupled together, the blockages of both UVA and UVB Rays provide the maximum sun damage and temperature control. The myth that the darker the film, the better it is for you is causing a huge safety issue. The percentages that will be allowed are defined to allow for sufficient safety.

And before you make an incorrect assumption, I am not a window tinter, LEO, state legislator, nor do I work for a tint manufacturer. I know what I know because I want to know, and that causes me to thoroughly research what I want to know.

futuretinter1820 days ago

i would really love for this law to pass

i just got my truck painted metallic black and it looks good

but would look 20% better if my side windows and rear window were tinted

the only thing that has stopped me from getting tints already is that i know alot of my friends have been ticketed and forced to remove their tint in the area i work in

Dan1818 days ago

So I checked on here: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3325&GAID=10&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=46080&SessionID=76&GA=96#actions

and it shows yesterday's date with: 10/28/2009 Senate Motion Filed Override Amendatory Veto Sen. Matt Murphy

So? What does that mean? Can anyone help explain it?

default.xbe1818 days ago

same thing is meant in the house, the senate will vote to override the veto, if it passes with a 3/5 majority (30 yays) it becomes law

Mike1818 days ago

So when will this vote take place in the senate? If it is passed, and becomes the law, when will it take effect? Immediately, 1/1/2010, or when?

default.xbe1818 days ago

tomorrow (the 30th) is the last day of the veto session, so it should be voted on then i would think

if it passes it takes effect immediately

Finally1817 days ago

so it just passed in the senate, does anyone know if it the law takes effect immediately?

Ed Marshall1817 days ago

default.xbe: Do you know if there's any kind of submission process that needs to be followed at this point, or is it effectively the law as of now? (I always assumed the bill needed to be handed off in some official capacity to the Secretary of State or some such.)

Poonjahb1817 days ago

So, since they overrode the veto, does this actually mean that SUVs cannot have the front windows tinted? Also, according to 1-148.3b, are 4x4 trucks included in that as well (as quoted below)?

Sec. 1‑148.3b. Multipurpose passenger vehicle. A motor vehicle with motive power, except a trailer, designed to carry 10 persons or less that is constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for occasional off‑road operation.

Someone with some background in decoding this type of stuff would be appreciated in helping to answer the questions below.

I have a car with 5% tint applied behind the driver. Can I legally tint the front windows with 50% tint under this new law?

I have an extended cab truck with (according to online forums) ~18% factory tint on the rear windows. Can I legally tint the front windows with 50%?

Finally I can Be Tinted out1817 days ago

IT PASSED!!!!!! Check out the Illinois House Bill 3325 FaceBook Page for more information.

Cargent051817 days ago

Are you sure about that???

"In addition to signing bills or vetoing them outright, Illinois' constitution allows the governor to "return a bill together with specific changes" to the legislature (Article IV, Section 9(e)). When a governor issues an amendatory veto, the legislature must decide whether to concur with the changes or to override them. Concurring with an amendatory veto requires a simple majority in both chambers, while overriding an amendatory veto takes a three-fifths vote in both chambers. If the legislature fails to concur with the veto or override it, the bill dies and does not become law."

Ed Marshall1817 days ago

Cargent05: yes, and both the house and senate achieved a 3/5 majority to override.

Poonjahb1817 days ago

thanks for the clarification up top. Only question I have now is does an extended cab pickup qualify as an MPV, and can I tint the fronts if my factory installed privacy glass is darker than 30%?

Ed Marshall1816 days ago

And, the police response has started coming in:

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132941

Complaints about losing a probable-cause stop option, and assertions that Chicago, as a home rule unit, will be able to override the Illinois Vehicle Code on this (despite it being an equipment violation, rather than a moving violation).

default.xbe1816 days ago

yeah, they were complaining on that forum when the bill was introduced that another PC (read = easy ticket) was taken away from them

its stupid to me, they just want to give out easy tickets so they can meet their quotas without having to do anything about real crime

=/1815 days ago

how does this affect pre-existing tickets? I've got a hearing coming up for my $250 tint ticket.

Dave was one of TWO People who had the Facebook page...

I created it, and invited Dave to join admins because of his intimate knowledge of the bill.

In response to Ed Marshall:

I dug into the codes and found some interesting info concerning Chicago's possible attempts to override the freedoms allowed by HB3325.

As I posted on the FB Page yesterday, Chicago cannot enforce their ordinance anymore according to (65 ILCS 5/1‑2.1‑2) Sec. 1‑2.1‑2. This section is included in the Illinois Municipal Code, and is pursuant to localities that utilize "Home Rule." The section states: "Administrative adjudication of municipal code violations. Any municipality may provide by ordinance for a system of administrative adjudication of municipal code violations to the extent permitted by the Illinois Constitution. A "system of administrative adjudication" means the adjudication of any violation of a municipal ordinance, except for (i) proceedings not within the statutory or the home rule authority of municipalities; and (ii) any offense under the Illinois Vehicle Code or a similar offense that is a traffic regulation governing the movement of vehicles and except for any reportable offense under Section 6‑204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
(Source: P.A. 90‑516, eff. 1‑1‑98.)"

The critical part is "(ii) any offense under the Illinois Vehicle Code or a similar offense that is a traffic regulation governing the movement of vehicles and except for any reportable offense under Section 6‑204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code."

Tint is equipment installed on a vehicle that does not contribute to the movement of the vehicle and is not listed as a reportable offense under Section 6-204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.

Jesi1814 days ago

Thanks for sharing about the bill passes in senate. This will good for people!

Converned Citizen1813 days ago

I do not believe the Bill Passed. Both Houses Overrode the Governor Amendatory Veto and if I understand correctly, that means the Bill did not pass. If it is Concurred, then it passed.

default.xbe1813 days ago

no, it passed, because they overrode the veto it means it passed without the governors amendments

if they had concurred it would have passed with the amendments

TickTock1813 days ago

Converned Citizen

The bill passed and is now law, specifically Public Act 096-0815.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?Name=096-0815

Concerned Citizen1813 days ago

Thanks for the clarification default.xbe and TickTock. I am really happy now.

Asshole ticket writers1813 days ago

Seems they're writing tickets in retaliation of the passage of the law. I got a $250 ticket today for tint. Easy enough to contest by mail.

default.xbe1812 days ago

its possible they arent away it passed fully into law, or that its effective immediately

but yes, police have definitely stepped up ticket writing since this bill was brought to the table

default.xbe1812 days ago

that should say "they arent aware" :)

anon1810 days ago

I just got off the phone with the Illinois S.O.S. 1-217-782-7758 and nothing goes into effect until 1-1-2010

CT1810 days ago

On 10-30-9, we got an update from Andrea at the Illinois Capitol Office. HB 3325 successfully passed the amendatory veto in the House and Senate. This bill becomes law effective immediately.

anon1810 days ago

im just sayin....clearly the two of them arent on the same page then...and who's "we" and who's andrea

CT1810 days ago

"We" is Cartype and Andrea is our contact at Representative Suzanne Bassi.

default.xbe1810 days ago

"effective immediately" is also part of the bill

18 Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon
19 becoming law.

Mike1810 days ago

At the bottom of the page of the public act, seen below. It says the bill is to be enacted as law on the effective date, which is 10/30/2009. So I pretty sure the law is in effect now, and was so as of 10/30/2009.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?Name=096-0815

WC1805 days ago

This just shows how ineffectual and over-bureaucratic public decision making has become. New laws, legislature sponsoring conflicting laws, and seriousness of an offence dictated by whimsy? Outrageous.

Ghettolwyr1796 days ago

In Response to Todd:
I believe your reading of the Illinois code is incorrect. "65 ILCS 5/1‑2.1‑2) Sec. 1‑2.1‑2. This section is included in the Illinois Municipal Code, and is pursuant to localities that utilize "Home Rule." The section states: "Administrative adjudication of municipal code violations. Any municipality may provide by ordinance for a system of administrative adjudication of municipal code violations to the extent permitted by the Illinois Constitution. A "system of administrative adjudication" means the adjudication of any violation of a municipal ordinance, except for (i) proceedings not within the statutory or the home rule authority of municipalities; and (ii) any offense under the Illinois Vehicle Code or a similar offense that is a traffic regulation governing the movement of vehicles and except for any reportable offense under Section 6‑204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
(Source: P.A. 90‑516, eff. 1‑1‑98.)"

The critical part is the word "except" just before (i). When read correctly the statute actually says home rule units can adjudicate any municipal ordinance EXCEPT moving violations.

The Illinois vehicle code specifically allows Chicago to adjudicate the equipment of vehicles under the home rule doctrine:

(625 ILCS 5/11‑208.3) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11‑208.3)
(Text of Section from P.A. 96‑288)
Sec. 11‑208.3. Administrative adjudication of violations of traffic regulations concerning the standing, parking, or condition of vehicles and automated traffic law violations.
(a) Any municipality may provide by ordinance for a system of administrative adjudication of vehicular standing and parking violations and vehicle compliance violations as defined in this subsection and automated traffic law violations as defined in Section 11‑208.6. The administrative system shall have as its purpose the fair and efficient enforcement of municipal regulations through the administrative adjudication of automated traffic law violations and violations of municipal ordinances regulating the standing and parking of vehicles, the CONDITION AND USE OF VEHICLE EQUIPMENT, and the display of municipal wheel tax licenses within the municipality's borders. The administrative system shall only have authority to adjudicate civil offenses carrying fines not in excess of $250 or requiring the completion of a traffic education program, or both, that occur after the effective date of the ordinance adopting such a system under this Section. For purposes of this Section, "compliance violation" means a violation of a municipal regulation governing the condition or use of equipment on a vehicle or governing the display of a municipal wheel tax license.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not convinced that Chicago will be unsuccessful in asserting Home Rule

ScrwdNChi1794 days ago

This page has been very informative.
I just got ticketed yesterday for this crap.
I've got a real light tint on my front side windows (50%), and 35% on my back side windows and rear window.

I'm going to stop by the place where I had it installed and get some information to send in to contest it.

Seems like the parking meter fiasco has them scrambling to fleece us any way they can.

In response to Ghettolwyr:

You quoted the exact reason that Chicago cannot fine for tint on the front windows, however your emphasis was on the wrong item of the IL Municipal Code.

Let's take a look again: "65 ILCS 5/1‑2.1‑2) Sec. 1‑2.1‑2. This section is included in the Illinois Municipal Code, and is pursuant to localities that utilize "Home Rule." The section states: "Administrative adjudication of municipal code violations. Any municipality may provide by ordinance for a system of administrative adjudication of municipal code violations to the extent permitted by the Illinois Constitution. A "system of administrative adjudication" means the adjudication of any violation of a municipal ordinance, except for (i) proceedings not within the statutory or the home rule authority of municipalities; and (ii) any offense under the Illinois Vehicle Code or a similar offense that is a traffic regulation governing the movement of vehicles and except for any reportable offense under Section 6‑204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
(Source: P.A. 90‑516, eff. 1‑1‑98.)"

You noted the exception concerning moving violations, but you missed the part that makes the exception for anything explicitly listed in the IL Vehicle Code.

So now, we take a look at P.A. 096-0815: "Public Act 096-0815

HB3325 Enrolled LRB096 05916 AJT 15997 b

AN ACT concerning transportation.

Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois,
represented in the General Assembly:

Section 5. The Illinois Vehicle Code is amended by changing
Sections 3-412 and 12-503 as follows:"

Uh-oh... did it just say that the Illinois Vehicle Code was amended? Why yes... yes it did.

Therefore, conclusive to the fact that the IL Vehicle Code was amended to allow the use of tint on the front windows of vehicles, as long as said tint is in compliance with the IL Vehicle Code as amended, then we can say that administrative adjucation of violations is excepted from Home Rule and is to be enforced according to IL Vehicle Code.

pkoster251789 days ago

So what exactly can i do to my car at this point?? Im lookin to tint fairly quickly....got my car broken into yesterday early morning of Thanksgiving....looks like they punched the window out and all that was stolen was my GPS and 4 cigarettes....they didnt even go for the good shit........but obviously im not lookin to have this happen again........so under this new law....what are my options in laymans terms......i have no medical condition or whatsoever......does this mean no reflective (mirror) tints at all??? If someone could shed some light on this...that would be great.

Nadia D.1777 days ago

I got a ticket 2 days before the law went into effect. Do you think i can contest on the the grounds of the change in the regulation?

DD1777 days ago

Chicago claims that home rule allows it to enforce its tint ordinance despite IL law. Chicago reads the section above to mean that the only exceptions are moving violations. And, since tint is an equipment violation, no conflict. I'd love to hear from somebody who has contested and won based on new IL law

(ii) any offense under the Illinois Vehicle Code -- or a similar offense --- that is a traffic regulation governing the movement of vehicles and except for any reportable offense under Section 6‑204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.

ana1775 days ago

pkoster25, tinting probably would not of helped you, if the GPS was mounted on the front windshield which can't be tinted, they still would have seen the GPS unit and went for it as a fast way to sell for easy money.

Hide that stuff.

tech1775 days ago

OK, the state law has been amended but the city charge has not. So if you're written for the city charge...

Tommy Lee1767 days ago

Our vehicles are our property rights. Law officals have no rights to push for laws taking away our rights to do what we want or have on our personal vehicles as long as there safe and registered.

As tax payers we pay car insurance, Licenses tags and create jobs for illinois

Tint windows protect our selfs and our car interior. It also protects items from criminals that walk by to see if anything of value can be stolen.

Auto Tint companies pay taxes and create jobs for Illinois.

Local and State law officals vehicles are exempt from tint laws on there vehicles.

Its about time we make it clear State and Local law officals work for us.

Stating that Tint on vehicles should be outlawed is stereotyping that all law obeying indiviuals are criminals.

Kudos to thoses that support our American Rights..

Tommy Lee1767 days ago

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3325&GAID=10&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=&SessionID=76&SpecSess=&Session=&GA=96

HB3325 was vetoed by the Governor, but overighted by both houses which means our bill has passed and become law Imediately.

Our rights and voices have been heard and protected..

truckman1765 days ago

My question is for us drivers of 2-door trucks, i.e. regular-cab S10s, Rangers, F-150s, Silverados, etc. Since on these vehicles we only have the driver & passenger side window, can these be tinted? It's not really clear.

Also, how can Cook County / Chitown asurp the state law? Know Daley-land is crooked but c'mon, isn't the parking meter and the other scams enough?

poonjahb1752 days ago

Any update on the January bill that will be clarifying the law for MPVs? Waiting for that to happen before I risk tinting my truck.

Uncle1749 days ago

There is usually a reason for every law...and usually it's because somebody screwed up. Front window tinting is dangerous for law enforcement. I'm sorry to say but dirt bags with guns help enact the law in the first place. Fatalities will go up because with tint police can't see if your drinking or have your seat belt on. And if you think your legislature was listening to you and changed the law then your in a dream world. Enviormental lobbiest threw money at them and told them tint would help lower emmissions with less airconditioning.....nice.

Galadin1749 days ago

It is true that tinting lowers the amount of energy transferred into the car and hence the need for air conditioning. It also blocks UV light and helps protect the cars interior.

There is definitely a need for safety, and that is where the values of the tint comes into play. Going past the values in the current law offers minimal return on cooling, but does greatly increase the danger to law enforcement. The law as it is now is a good example of finding a compromise that still allows internal visibility into the vehicle, while offering a reduction in energy transference.

Cargent051740 days ago

Has anyone gotten a ticket in Chicago since the new law took affect, and beat the ticket? If so, was your car registered in Chicago?

DILLADADON1739 days ago

so is tints legall or not in cook county? n if so wat is da terms? cuz my new 02 impala is being painted black n i want some black tints..... black on black on black u feel

MB1710 days ago

According to State law a City with "Home Rule" status can not enact any municipal code that contradicts the Illinois Vehicle Code, unless noted within the Illinois Vehicle Code. The tint law falls under Chapter 12 of the Illinois Vehicle Code, which contains NO provisions for a city with "Home Rule" status. This was verified with the Office of State Representative Suzanne Bassi, who co-sponsored HB 3325.

That being said, the City of Chicago continues to issue tickets under municipal code 9-76-220. I contacted the Legal Department at the City Clerk's Office for the City of Chicago. The first response was " I am being told that the City of Chicago's Home Rule status allows it to issue tickets under 9-76-220 since this falls under the Illinois Vehicle Code 625 ILCS 5/ Chapter 12."

Since there is no provision in Chapter 12 for "Home Rule" municipalities I followed up. I then asked for validation that the City of Chicago has the authority to supersede Chapter 12 of the Illinois Vehicles Code. Here is the response:
"Sorry there is nothing further I can add."

I will be contacting my State Representative, State Senator and City of Chicago Alderman this week.

Upon informing the City Clerks Office of the

N8C1708 days ago

I want to weigh in on the Chicago debate here. I think that FacebookILHB3325-Todd's reading of the law is incorrect. Again, here is the statute regarding home rule:

"Any municipality may provide by ordinance for a system of administrative adjudication of municipal code violations to the extent permitted by the Illinois Constitution. A "system of administrative adjudication" means the adjudication of any violation of a municipal ordinance, except for (i) proceedings not within the statutory or the home rule authority of municipalities; and (ii) any offense under the Illinois Vehicle Code or a similar offense that is a traffic regulation governing the movement of vehicles and except for any reportable offense under Section 6‑204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
(Source: P.A. 90‑516, eff. 1‑1‑98.)"

The "except for" that I've bolded clearly applies to both clauses (i) and (ii); thus, ONLY regulations concerning moving vehicles and reportable offenses under 6-204 of the IL Vehicle Code are exempt from home rule. The new tinting law is neither a moving offense nor is it included in section 6-204 of the IL Vehicle Code. It follows that the new tinting law is NOT mandatory in Chicago.

Believe me, I wish it were, because I also just got a $250 fine. But I just don't think Chicagoans can argue against tinting violations based on HB3325.

N8C1708 days ago

Oops--I meant to bold the following part:

"Any municipality may provide by ordinance for a system of administrative adjudication of municipal code violations to the extent permitted by the Illinois Constitution. A "system of administrative adjudication" means the adjudication of any violation of a municipal ordinance, except for (i) proceedings not within the statutory or the home rule authority of municipalities; and (ii) any offense under the Illinois Vehicle Code or a similar offense that is a traffic regulation governing the movement of vehicles and except for any reportable offense under Section 6‑204 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
(Source: P.A. 90‑516, eff. 1‑1‑98.)"

Galadin1707 days ago

Okay, I live in Chicago, and have received another ticket for my tint. I am having a discussion by email with my alderman's office about the rules and such to try and find some kind of resolution.

Barbara1688 days ago

Aren't we innocent until proven guilty? I got a $250 ticket for tints on 3/8/10 in Chicago while the vehicle was parked. I have an RX8 and have tints on all windows except windshield (% unknown). Isn't it the responsibility of the cop/city/state to provide proof that I violated the law? They can't just write a ticket based on a "hunch." Any advice on the best way of contesting this $250 ticket?

Galadin1688 days ago

What is the ticket for? It is usually for the city ordinance that you can't have front window tints at all. If that is the case, then you can try to contest it based on the new law. Make sure you cite the full law if you contest by mail.

Francisco1679 days ago

I just got one of these b.s. tickets yesterday. i took it to the city of chicago and asked to contest it. i will be but the guy behind the counter said i was wrong and that just cause the state chaned the law the city didnt. ive been looking for the city"s take on this in writing and am not able to find it. i did print out the public act but would also like to know the section of chapter 11 in the illinois vehicle code that mentions what andrea said on top of this page. any help. or at least how i can get a hold of andrea, or anyone at the state capitol that can help me out.

Paul1675 days ago

I do live in Illinois, but not in Chicago. If I am found to be running illegal tint now, what is the ticket issued, and how much is the fine?

DandC1650 days ago

Got conflicting information. According to an officer of Aurora PD, the law never passed so they are not reconizing having tint on the front windows as legal. And that since we're in the Midwest, it doesn't get that hot so we don't need tint here; Florida, Texas, yes, here no. And it's for officer's protection. But I take this with a grain of salt because he was not believable when he was talking about it. He didn't know what year of vehicles were grandfathered in and legal to have tint. Plus, it would cut into his ticket count. Yet I see tints shops advertising that it's legal. At least in the NW burbs I'm seeing more & more vehicles with tinted windows everyday. And looking at the law, you're good to go as long as it's 35% +/- 5% or so. But supposedly local can override state law?

I figure police are going to continue to ticket until it is squared away, especially in the Chi. And people are still going to be hit with $250 fines - this is turning into the red-light camera fiasco.

I know this may seem like a pipe-dream, but how do the drivers get the REAL information? How many on here has gotten a ticket after the law passed and successfully "beat it", for lack of a better term, using the above law?

Laura1642 days ago

Help! I have faintly tinted windows and got a ticket, so I contested it. However, they rejected it! What do I do now?

Atlas1606 days ago

Hey, how is the law for Chicago?
I wanna tint my car quick

DandC1551 days ago

Say on the news a couple months ago, believe it was NBC-channel 5 they did a story on this. Come to find out the law did indeed pass and C-PD & the city itself were still ticketing people illegaly, somewhat in the burbs too. This was stated by the tint shops, lawyers as well as those who helped write the law. A surprising twist, it was stated troopers and other agencies helped write the law, which is why the limit is 35% +/- 5% all around, or your combination in total can't be darker than the 35 +/- 5.

The way the officers were getting around it was by "officers judgement / discretion". Meaning it was up to them to decide / ticket someone for tint without checking with a light meter. If they felt the tint was too dark, ticket. If they "didn't know the law passed", ticket. If the judge "didn't know the law passed", pay the fine. It was reported as one big scam. The main advise from all were to report the incidents to the downstate officials, fight the ticket, get paperwork from the install shop the tint is within the limit & carry it with you if needed, ask the officer to put a light meter on it.

As long as the tint was 35% +/- 5% you were legal. I would say if you get ticketed fight it, bring the bill with you; look up the news broadcast on their website and cut/paste the story. Haven't checked in awhile but there was a vid posted as well.

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atta1470 days ago

weird. seems like there are more strict laws as time goes by. I wish California would allow front tint.. I've already gotten a fix it ticket for mine once.

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damnchicagolaw1421 days ago

yeah... I received 2 tickets for tinted windows so I have to pay 500 dollars !!! not for speeding but tinted windows... are you serious?!?
I contest by mail and it was rejected. They said, in the City of Chicago it's illegal. I'm so confused, I never heard anything about this law in the City of Chicago. How can I be fine for something that I have no prior knowledge of ? ? No warnings or anything. I went to a hearing for the first ticket and I heard that If I show proof that I took of the tints it would be okay. But the judge said, "it doesn't matter because at that time your car did not comply with the law." So what now? File a law suite against City of Chicago? Does it matter that I don't live in Chicago ? My city sticker is from Lincolnwood. I really can't afford this right now being a college student and all..

CT1421 days ago

It's ridiculous and quite sad that Chicago continues to treat their citizens like this. It is legal here.

jessy1363 days ago

Exactly how do a reverse license plate owner check up? I would like to know if there is any existing way you can enter in a license plate number over the internet and see the details of the person if it belongs to or perhaps the address of that individual. Can anyone help me? It is an The state of illinois license plate with S by the end of it. Please email me if you're able to investigate or post if you know the way to do a free one. Thanks very much.

bob1363 days ago

> It's ridiculous and quite sad that Chicago continues to treat their citizens like this. It is legal here.

Agree with u)

DandC1318 days ago

Again, it is legal to have tint, as long as the total tinting is 35% +/- 5%. Chicago & their PD is trying to get around it by saying it is up to the cops "discretion". Bump that, if they're trying to give you a ticket, make them put a light meter on it. If your tint is darker than that then yes, you'll get a ticket. If you received a ticket before the law passed, yes, you had to pay the ticker. Have a copy of the law in your glove box / in the car, also go to Tint Center, and search under Illinois Window Tint Law - it breaks it down perfectly. Make a copy of all of this, have ready to give to the officer (make many copies).

They're only doing this because they think drivers aren't informed. Contesting by mail doesn't work unless you make a BIG STINK, like sending in copies of the bill & information. Yes, it's a pain but looks like people have to continue to do it. Understand, it's an easy revenue generator that's why they jacked it up to $250 a few months before the law passed because they knew once it did, there goes their money.

Keep fighting this B.S.

Henryk Sarat1272 days ago

Hey guys, I got hit with this law and decided to make a site out of it. Check out the site and this issue here: http://www.haveavoice.com/Issue/Details/Tint-laws-in-Chicago-are-unfair

Thanks!

greg1195 days ago

I just got a $250 ticket in chicago for smoked/tinted windows while my car was parked on the street. i went to tint shop used light meter showed 31% on all door windows . contested by mail sent copy of hb3325 and written statement from tint shop. Received notice from city of chicago that i did not raise one of the permitted defenses to the violation as set forth in the ordinance. Consequently, as the registered owner i am responsible for the fine. I live in the south suburbs of chicago. What gives???

Jason1184 days ago

I am a journalist in Chicago. I just got a ticket this morning for tinted windows on my vehicle. I will be contesting the ticket. Chicago is hard headed and unfortunately the only way to make them stop is by filing a class action law suit against them. The hearings where you contest tickets are run by the city, so that in and of itself is biased. Just like Otis McDonald did when he sued the city over the unconstitutional gun laws, that is the only way they will stop this nonsense.

CT1184 days ago

I got one as well Jason. It is simply outrageous what the City is doing. I agree with you, a class action suit is in order. We are hoping to reach out to Representative Bassi and Representative Murphy to get their statements on how we can deal with this. See this as well, http://www.facebook.com/ILHB3325?sk=wall

jason1181 days ago

@CT, the person to call is Rep. LaShawn Ford. He was one of the co-sponsors along with Bassi and Murphy and his district includes CHICAGO! That's why I think he needs to know. His office number is 773-378-5902, We all need to tell him what has been happening.
Also I've spoken with Four Chicago alderman on this issue; Howard Brookins (21st) Rodrick Sawyer (6th), LaTasha Thomas and Margaret Laurino (39th). Laurino is the alderman that chairs the committee, which upped the fines two years ago. Interesting fact, when Chicago voted to increase the fine of the ticket from $25 to $250, it passed by a unanimous vote. But when I told all of the alderman what happened, they all said they had never heard of it. So that tells us a lot right there. They were all shocked and surprised and claimed they didn't know this was happening. Laurino said she would not go as far just yet to ask for an ordinance change, but she thinks the matter needs to be looked act seriously and quickly. This is what she told me today at City Council meeting. I think we have to contact all the members of the Pedestrian and Traffic Committee and just blast them with what is going on and demand they do something about it.

Sam1176 days ago

@jason...just got a ticket on a car that I've had parked here (Old Town) for 6 months and I know fits the subsection (4) exception of the ordinance - dealer installed 50% tint w/ 5% variance for front windows. Would love to cause a stink with the city and try to get this changed through the courts if necessary. I'd be interested in finding out what you're working on.

cop1034 days ago

http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/title9vehiclestrafficandrailtransportati/chapter9-76vehicleequipment?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:chicago_il$anc=JD_9-76-220

9-76-220 Obstruction of driver’s vision; tinted and nonreflective windows.
(a) No person shall operate a motor vehicle on any roadway with any sign, poster, window application, reflective material, nonreflective material or tinted film on the front windshield, sidewings or side windows immediately adjacent to either side of the operator. A nonreflective tint screen may be used along the uppermost portion of the front windshield if the material does not extend more than six inches down from the top of the windshield.

(b) It is unlawful to park or stand a vehicle on any portion of the public way if the vehicle is equipped with nonreflective, smoked or tinted glass or nonreflective film on the front windshield, sidewings or side windows immediately adjacent to either side of the driver’s seat.

(c) It is a defense to a charged violation of subsection (a) or subsection (b) of this section that the motor vehicle complies with the use, medical prescription and documentation provisions of Paragraph (g) of Section 12-503 of the Illinois Vehicle Code, as amended.

(Added Coun. J. 2-7-97, p. 38959, § 13; Amend Coun. J. 5-26-04, p. 24938, § 1)

John R.Cortez931 days ago

Walked out of school to find a ticket on my vehicle too. I was told by another student that the "Meter maid"put it on. 250 dollar ticket. I also live in the burbs, my tint metered at 35% which is legal in Illinois from what my tinter told me. I wish this could finally be straitened out already.

Juan925 days ago

To take off the tint our leave them on that the question.

Frane781 days ago

Regards for sharing the information with us.

I had a 2009 Scion TC, I had the windows tinted in 2009. At the time IL law was back as dark as you want(50% limo?) and you couldn't touch the front. It was a 2 door hatchback. I had the rear side windows and the rear/hatch window tinted. I never had an issue. I been told and if i understand above you can do all windows front and back 35% now under IL law? The new vehical I am getting tinted is a 2012 Toyota Prius C.

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